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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: taskbar: onlyGroupWhenFull
From:       Orcan Ogetbil <orcanbahri () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2008-10-30 20:19:32
Message-ID: 21371.20375.qm () web32803 ! mail ! mud ! yahoo ! com
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--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Christian Mollekopf <chrigi_1@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> From: Christian Mollekopf <chrigi_1@fastmail.fm>
> Subject: Re: taskbar: onlyGroupWhenFull
> To: orcanbahri@yahoo.com, plasma-devel@kde.org
> Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 3:46 PM
> Am 30.10.2008, 20:37 Uhr, schrieb Orcan Ogetbil
> <orcanbahri@yahoo.com>:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Not directly related to your question but...
> > As a user, the most annoying "feature" (to
> me) of any DE has been the  
> > grouping of tasks in the taskbar. I consider it a
> "bug". It is even  
> > worse than not having the "auto-hide panel".
> 
> Lucky you. there is autohide panel by now.
> 

Awesome, very many thanks to the author(s)!

> > 
> > Grouping makes tasks less accessible. I think that it
> is a way of  
> > telling the user: "You are so dumb that you
> opened so many windows that  
> > you forgot to keep track." Whenever I open a
> window I do want to keep  
> > its relative location fixed in the taskbar and I want
> to be able to  
> > reach it via single click.
> 
> your lucky again. 3 clicks to turn it off.
> 
You know, whenever a user installs KDE (or actually any DE) on a new computer he \
directly applies his own default list of customizations. Disabling the grouping was \
on the top of my list for KDE3. I was so happy to see that grouping didn't exist in \
KDE4. I thought it left my life for good.

Doing a quick google search: group tasks annoying
brought me to a discussions page about Windows XP where I found
...the directions:

1. Click Start > Settings > Taskbar and Start Menu
2. UNcheck the "Group similar tasbar buttons" option if it's checked
3. Click the OK button
4. Enjoy feeling less retarded

> > 
> > Please don't make this "bug" the default
> behavior.
> 
> we'll see....
> 
I admit that I didn't talked to sufficiently many people about this to achieve a \
reliable statistical data but I can say that every single person I asked disables \
this feature as soon as he installs his new DE. I hope that there will be a thorough \
study to decide on the default behavior.

> Regards,
> 
> Christian
> 

Cheers,
Orcan


      
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