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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    kdereview status updates
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2008-09-29 22:15:37
Message-ID: 200809291615.42781.aseigo () kde ! org
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hi all ...

kdereview/plasma is getting full again. huzzah!

unfortunately that means i need to go through all that stuff now .. ;) 

here's my thoughts on things, please comment ...

Applets
=====

incomingmsg: 
-------------------
verdict: this one should go into addons when it's ready, but it's not quite 
there yet...

* there are layout issues when added to the canvas (last icon pokes out below 
the standard background)
* when added to the panel it doesn't re-arrange itself to fit and creates 
layout havoc
* being able to activate the application by clicking on the icon would be 
really neat, but not a showstopper for inclusion


leavenote
-------------
verdict: the leave note itself is ok, but the daemon is problematic?

* the daemon seems to be a kdedmodule, but is loaded in its own process
* what need is there for a daemon at all? this should go through knotify, no?


news
------
verdict: move to kdeplasma-addons (i'd like rssnow in kdebase when it's ready)

* we probably will want to note that this is an "elegant" interface, with 
rssnow being "fancy" in the applet comment

paste
-------
verdict: this one is ok, but perhaps not quite ready to move yet

* when first added to the canvas it has a size issue: you can see this because 
the standard background is the wrong size at first until it is resized
* doesn't work in the panel either
* extensibility should probably be worked out first, e.g. extending with 
scripts, or ..?

weather_station
---------------------
verdict: move to kdeplasma-addons 

* this one is really nice, imo; we could probably improve the config dialog a 
bit
* when added to the panel it sizes alright .. but it looks odd. not a 
showstopper for addition as it doesn't mess up the rest of the panel, but this 
could probably become a PopupApplet
		

DataEngine
=======

exec
------
verdict: move to kdebase

rss
---
verdict: move to kdebase

* could use the same DataSource subcass pattern to get rid of some internall 
complexity, but generally already nice =)


Runners
=====

katesession
----------------
verdict: move to kdeplasma-addons

recentdocuments
------------------------
verdict: move to kdebase

this one is a bit funny actually: it didn't work. it even had a "FIXME: 
doesn't work" comment on the line that didn't work. heh. please make sure 
things actually work before moving them to kdereview ;)


ScriptEngines
========

qedjescript
---------------
verdict: move to kdebase

there's still work to be done here, i think, such is with package installation 
(i get bad packages at times) and i have to LD_PRELOAD libeet though that's 
due to the qedje libs. however, it's in generally decent shape and can mature 
in kdebase where more people will also be able to test it.

-- 
Aaron J. Seigo
humru othro a kohnu se
GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA  EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43

KDE core developer sponsored by Trolltech




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}</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Bitstream Vera Sans'; font-size:12pt; \
font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">hi all ...<br> <p \
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-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>kdereview/plasma is getting full again. huzzah!<br> <p \
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margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>unfortunately that means i need to go through all that \
stuff now .. ;) <br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>here's my thoughts on things, please \
comment ...<br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>Applets<br> =====<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>incomingmsg: <br>
-------------------<br>
verdict: this one should go into addons when it's ready, but it's not quite there \
yet...<br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>* there are layout issues when added to the canvas (last \
                icon pokes out below the standard background)<br>
* when added to the panel it doesn't re-arrange itself to fit and creates layout \
                havoc<br>
* being able to activate the application by clicking on the icon would be really \
neat, but not a showstopper for inclusion<br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>leavenote<br>
-------------<br>
verdict: the leave note itself is ok, but the daemon is problematic?<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>* the daemon seems to be a kdedmodule, but is loaded in \
                its own process<br>
* what need is there for a daemon at all? this should go through knotify, no?<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
                text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>news<br>
------<br>
verdict: move to kdeplasma-addons (i'd like rssnow in kdebase when it's ready)<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>* we probably will want to note that this is an "elegant" \
interface, with rssnow being "fancy" in the applet comment<br> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>paste<br>
-------<br>
verdict: this one is ok, but perhaps not quite ready to move yet<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>* when first added to the canvas it has a size issue: you \
can see this because the standard background is the wrong size at first until it is \
                resized<br>
* doesn't work in the panel either<br>
* extensibility should probably be worked out first, e.g. extending with scripts, or \
..?<br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>weather_station<br>
---------------------<br>
verdict: move to kdeplasma-addons <br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>* this one is really nice, imo; we could probably improve \
                the config dialog a bit<br>
* when added to the panel it sizes alright .. but it looks odd. not a showstopper for \
addition as it doesn't mess up the rest of the panel, but this could probably become \
a PopupApplet<br>  <br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>DataEngine<br> =======<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>exec<br>
------<br>
verdict: move to kdebase<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>rss<br>
---<br>
verdict: move to kdebase<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>* could use the same DataSource subcass pattern to get rid \
of some internall complexity, but generally already nice =)<br> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>Runners<br> =====<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>katesession<br>
----------------<br>
verdict: move to kdeplasma-addons<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>recentdocuments<br>
------------------------<br>
verdict: move to kdebase<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>this one is a bit funny actually: it didn't work. it even \
had a "FIXME: doesn't work" comment on the line that didn't work. heh. please make \
sure things actually work before moving them to kdereview ;)<br> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>ScriptEngines<br> ========<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
                -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>qedjescript<br>
---------------<br>
verdict: move to kdebase<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>there's still work to be done here, i think, such is with \
package installation (i get bad packages at times) and i have to LD_PRELOAD libeet \
though that's due to the qedje libs. however, it's in generally decent shape and can \
mature in kdebase where more people will also be able to test it.<br> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>-- \
<br> Aaron J. Seigo<br>
humru othro a kohnu se<br>
GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA  EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>KDE core developer sponsored by Trolltech<br> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p \
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margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p><p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p></body></html>


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