'Re: [Panel-devel] Xgl, AiGLX, EXA, Compiz, Luminocity, QT4...'

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Subject: Re: [Panel-devel] Xgl, AiGLX, EXA, Compiz, Luminocity, QT4...
From: "Vincent Weber" <weber.vincent () gmail ! com>
Date: 2006-03-21 18:14:43
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2006/3/20, Zbigniew Braniecki <zbigniew.braniecki@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi, I'd like to ask some questions about the future of X.org and
> graphic feature set for KDE4.
> Please, don't find it as ANYTHING anywere near to flamewar. I'm just
> confused and I'd like to discuss the way KDE wants to go here.
>
> I saw Xgl, it seems to be a great piece of work (I'm not discussing if
> it's right choice as architectural decision). It works on today's
> software (like X.org 7.0 and KDE 3.5) which is great.
> I assume that AiGLX works very similar which is cool as well.
>
> I saw something called Luminocity, and it was also nice piece of work,
> and then I saw Zack's demo's of very similar features for KDE.
>
> I was very interested in EXA, but it seems that some code was added to
> X.org 7.0 and nothing happens now around it (I checked X.org wiki - no
> news there :( ).
>
> Now. As I understand, Xgl is going to be included in X.org server in
> the future. AiXGL is not, EXA already is there.
>
> I read that KDE people are not happy about Xgl/AiXGL because it does
> what DE should do, not X server.
>
> But KDE can't ignore the fact that Xgl exists and is usable (yes, I
> tested it on Gentoo and SuSe and Ubuntu and it works on 3 various
> machines. It's not mature, but it works surprisingly well), so I'm
> wondering if KDE4 will be using Xgl/Xegl features somehow, will KDE
> try to use AiXGL somehow?
> What's the plan about it? To stick to X.org 7.0 feature set and
> develop basing on Qt only? Will Qt integrate with Xgl/Xegl via KDE?
>
> I'm sorry if my questions sounds stupid, I don't know those
> technologies too much so possibly I'm messing many different levels,
> but my point of view is not a technical discussion about what should
> be where and which is better, but rather a question about what KDE4
> wants to use for graphic feature set and how much of it will be shared
> through X.org and freedesktop.org with other DE's.
>
> Greetings
> Zbigniew Braniecki
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> Panel-devel@kde.org
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/panel-devel
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Hey this text placed here I saw on a website yesterday o0!!! <div>2006/3/20, Zbigniew Braniecki &lt;<a \
href="mailto:zbigniew.braniecki@gmail.com">zbigniew.braniecki@gmail.com</a>&gt;:
 <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); \
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi, I'd like to ask some questions \
about the future of <a href="http://X.org">X.org</a> and graphic feature set for \
KDE4. Please, don't find it as ANYTHING anywere near to flamewar. I'm \
just confused and I'd like to discuss the way KDE wants to go here. I saw \
Xgl, it seems to be a great piece of work (I'm not discussing if it's right \
choice as architectural decision). It works on today's software (like <a \
href="http://X.org">X.org</a> 7.0 and KDE 3.5) which is great. I assume that AiGLX \
works very similar which is cool as well. I saw something called Luminocity, \
and it was also nice piece of work, and then I saw Zack's demo's of very similar \
features for KDE. I was very interested in EXA, but it seems that some code \
was added to <a href="http://X.org">X.org</a> 7.0 and nothing happens now around \
it (I checked <a href="http://X.org">X.org</a> wiki - no news there :( \
). Now. As I understand, Xgl is going to be included in <a \
href="http://X.org"> X.org</a> server in the future. AiXGL is not, EXA already is \
there. I read that KDE people are not happy about Xgl/AiXGL because it \
does what DE should do, not X server. But KDE can't ignore the fact that \
Xgl exists and is usable (yes, I tested it on Gentoo and SuSe and Ubuntu and it \
works on 3 various machines. It's not mature, but it works surprisingly well), so \
I'm wondering if KDE4 will be using Xgl/Xegl features somehow, will KDE try to \
use AiXGL somehow? What's the plan about it? To stick to <a \
href="http://X.org">X.org</a> 7.0 feature set and develop basing on Qt only? Will \
Qt integrate with Xgl/Xegl via KDE? I'm sorry if my questions sounds stupid, I \
don't know those technologies too much so possibly I'm messing many different \
levels, but my point of view is not a technical discussion about what should be \
where and which is better, but rather a question about what KDE4 wants to use for \
graphic feature set and how much of it will be shared through <a \
href="http://X.org">X.org</a> and <a \
href="http://freedesktop.org">freedesktop.org</a> with other \
DE's. Greetings Zbigniew \
Braniecki _______________________________________________ Panel-devel mailing \
list <a href="mailto:Panel-devel@kde.org">Panel-devel@kde.org</a> <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/panel-devel">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/panel-devel</a> </blockquote></div>

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