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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: [Panel-devel] kicker is a mess
From:       Wade Olson <wadejolson () gmail ! com>
Date:       2005-10-03 14:24:03
Message-ID: a42b7670510030724p7c472edaj1cc4b6965969db53 () mail ! gmail ! com
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Leave it to the non-KDE-coder to answer first.

Before people chime in and dismiss UML for not being the holy grail or
that UML is the best thing ever, let me ask this:  does it make the
situation better?

And from that perspective, I'd answer definitely.  Since I'm not on
any dev lists, maybe this is done all the time, or has been shot down
242 times.  But I'd rather speculate, than actually read those lists'
archives :).

To me, UML diagrams allow for both better introductions to new
participants, as well as helps more experienced people to refine the
code.  How many times have you fumbled around in a database, only to
look at an ERD and find the answer that much sooner?  OR tried to
design a new database without modeling it?  If you tried to pitch to a
DBA team that you've successfully modeled something complex in 3rd/4th
normal form without an ERD, they'd find you pretty funny.  Same with
class diagrams, sequence diagrams, etc.

So conclusion: I welcome the addition, and agree with you that it'd
certainly help new nembers (which Plasma has no shortage of).

Now, the question is: what's public and what's not.  All Plasma
information doesn't need to be posted on the net with blink tags for
everyone to see.


On 10/1/05, Diego Iastrubni <elcuco@kde.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have been asked by Aaron to make this public, so here it is.
>
> I have been trying to hunt for a bug, and I found that kicker is quite
> complicated. It consists of many classes, and to fully understand
> how this project is coded, I started drawing kicker classes with a pen and a
> paper. Eventually, I found that doing it by had, is not efficient. I fired up
> umbrello.
>
> I made a UML out of the kdebase/kicker/kicker/core. I just used umbrello's
> import feature, and set the items in a more sane layout. Its still very hard,
> since umbrello is not set up for this kind of complex projects. It uses A LOT
> of memory, and I see my machine swapping a lot when loading this project. The
> uncompressed is about 2MB size, the compressed tgz is 82kb.
>
> Here, enjoy, and if you can fix:
> http://iglu.org.il/~diego/kicker/kicker-diagram.png
> http://iglu.org.il/~diego/kicker/kicker.xmi.tgz
>
> Maybe its about time to document the code. How about we add some similar
> documentation in KDE4? Fixing bugs in KDE is hard, the projects have become
> really huge, and such things will help new people fixing bugs.
>
> --
> diego, kde-il translation team, http://www.kde.org/il
>
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
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