I have also thought how an application launch interface could behave. To be simple and intuitive I think it should build on the same usage patterns as other applications. I have come to wonder - why not treat the application launch interface (be it a start menu or something fancier) as a started application, rather than as a special button in the taskbar? Treating it like a regular application window would give these usability benefits: o It would be accessible like other started applications. Opening the ALI with the keyboard would not require any special keybindings, just regular alt-tab-tab-tab until you focus on it to bring it forward, and then navigate in it with tab or arrow keys. That is more intuitive than using something like ALT-F1 to bring it up o It would simplify the layout of a task bar. As the first started application, it would naturially reside in the lower left corner and as further windows are opened they would fill from left to right. o Regular window operations could work on it, like always in front, resize, moving around etc. I think the only special properties it should have is that it should always be started, and not be easily closed. Claes