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List:       kde-multimedia
Subject:    Re: Some ideas for the aRts-replacement
From:       Koos Vriezen <koos.vriezen () xs4all ! nl>
Date:       2004-02-21 10:36:13
Message-ID: 20040221103613.GG34849 () xs4all ! nl
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On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 10:15:11AM +0100, Stefan Gehn wrote:
> On Freitag Februar 20 2004 02:09, Koos Vriezen wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:32:03AM +0100, Scott Wheeler wrote:
> > > On Friday 20 February 2004 1:15, Koos Vriezen wrote:
> > > > I hope this discussion is converging to having a small sound server,
> > > > used by all KDE apps (with no linking penalties, lazy initialization
> > > > etc). Since arts already can use ESD, MAS, ALSA as sound server, we
> > > > already have this Knotify should use a sound server (as defined above)
> > > > and not a media framework IHMO. So what should be done is writing a
> > > > sound server for KDE first.
> > >
> > > That doesn't make any sense -- why would we write another sound server?
> >
> > Simply using ESD would be a start..actually a small wrapper that plugins
> Why whould I want to install that crappy old thing if my artsd is working?

You missed the point. It's not about replacing arts with esd, but about letting
the user/distro choose which sound server to use that should at least serve
knotify (so a wrapper for each should be written)

> > Maintaining this is in no way comparable with maintaining arts, no?
> And it doesn't improve anything.
> 
> > > Which basically means we'd be where we are now, but we'd have introduced
> > > another layer and something else for us to do a bad job of maintaining.
> >
> > Not quite, knotify doesn't depend on arts (was the subject of the
> > original posting :)
> 
> Wow, what a huge gain (not).

Wake up, SuSE now has kaffeine as default player. If a desktop has this 
player, maybe kmplayer as konqueror plugin, xxxdsp for nsplugin/third party
stuff, I don't see why such a desktop would need a Grand Unified Sound solution.

Koos

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