From kde-multimedia  Fri Feb 21 22:33:28 2003
From: Neil Stevens <neil () qualityassistant ! com>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:33:28 +0000
To: kde-multimedia
Subject: Re: aRts vs JACK
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On Friday February 21, 2003 01:54, Jozef Kosoru wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 01:38:36PM -0800, Neil Stevens wrote:
> > On Friday February 21, 2003 01:37, Jozef Kosoru wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 01:27:29PM -0800, Neil Stevens wrote:
> > > > > > So I don't see any value in KDE adopting CSL.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well if forcing KDE users to have to use aRts and not be able to
> > > > > choose is a good thing to do... then you're probably right.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, KDE has to force its users to use certain libraries and
> > > > services. We force X, we force Qt, we force unix, we force C++. 
> > > > Forcing one more thing doens't hurt.  We don't force you to run
> > > > aRts after all.. we only force you to use it if you want audio.
> > >
> > > OK, I want to use audio - therefore I'm forced to use aRts - but
> > > what can I do if aRts does not fulfil my requirements? It is not
> > > designed for the professional audio.
> >
> > If your sound card doesn't support multiple aps accessing the device,
> > then simply suspend artsd for the duration of your work using jack or
> > whatever.
> >
> > The suspend button is accessable in the arts control app. 
> > Auto-suspend functionality is also available.
>
> It isn't an user friendly. I've made some JACK applications and always
> get mails from the users that my app does not work because aRts blocks
> the dsp device all the time. Do you understand where's the problem?
> Can you imagine the same problem on Windows?
>   "Dear user - if you want to use our product - go to control panel and
>   disable the windows system audio. Then run our application. If you
>   finish, go to control panel and enable the audio option again." :))))

Erm.. so let me get this straight:  You want KDE to support 
professional-quality apps, using low-quality hardware, and be automatic 
and user friendly?

Shoudln't pros be expected to know how to use a simple app and press one 
button?

- -- 
Neil Stevens - neil@qualityassistant.com
"Distinctions by race are so evil, so arbitrary and insidious that a
state bound to defend the equal protection of the laws must not allow
them in any public sphere." -- Thurgood Marshall
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