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List:       kde-multimedia
Subject:    Bug#32978: usability
From:       Thomas Zander <zander () microweb ! nl>
Date:       2001-09-27 7:19:01
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 11:03:56AM -0700, Neil Stevens wrote:
> On Wednesday September 26, 2001 07:41, Thomas Zander wrote:
> > OK-ing (or Applying) the dialog should save the config to file
> > immidiately so when I change the options to allow only one instance of
> > Noatun I should not have to close Noatun to get these options to work.
> > Which is the case with my KDE 2.2.1
> 
> I think you misrepresent the situation here.  It *does* save the settings, 
> and the settings take effect for every other option.  It's just a bug that 
> this one setting doesn't take effect.
> 
> What would propose happen if someone turns on single instance mode, and 
> other instances are open, by the way?  A dose of SIGKILL to the other 
> processes?

Well, that is not really what I was aiming at, no :)
Just that when I click on another song it opens in the existing one.
Hmm, I can't reproduce it anymore, maybe because I ran kbuildsycoca 
an extra time..
Never mind this one..

> > Further it is not natural to have to apply the changes for the
> > plugins-options to apprear in the list on the left.
> 
> This one I have a problem with.  Where else do settings changes only take 
> effect *before* you press Apply or OK?
> 
> > I suggest using an OK action which actively adds a plugin. This
> > ok-action will then add the config option to the list immidiately.
> > A combo with an explenation and an OK button at the bottom not unlike
> > the top part of the new (not yet available in KDE221) effects dialog
> > comes to mind.
> 
> Except that the term OK is already used in KDE, for dismising 
> informational dialogs, right?

Let me say it in another way then, I want to be able to configure the plugins
before I press OK. AND pressing apply should not change the content of the 
dialog. You just applied something and then it changed! This is not right...

If you s/OK/Add/ on my suggestion, it will be clearer what I mean. 

> 
> Also, if you think for a minute, this OK button will have the same effect 
> as a button that's already there - Apply.  Seems natural to me that 
> someone who wants things to take effect immediately will hit the button 
> that makes things take effect immediately for every other dialog in KDE - 
> Apply.

Hmm, no; the OK (lets call it 'Add' now) adds the plugin to the list of active
plugins, allowing a config option to be created. This does not apply any other
part of the config dialog.

-- 
Thomas Zander                                              zander@microweb.nl
The only thing worse than failure is the fear of trying something new

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