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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: KDE panel and Mac style menubar
From:       Richard Moore <rich () ipso-facto ! freeserve ! co ! uk>
Date:       2001-05-16 16:09:56
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Stephen Yates wrote:
> 
> There are several features related to the KDE panel and Mac style menubar that
> I would like to see in a future version of KDE.
> 
> I would like to be able to setup child panels just like I can with the main
> panel, so that I can hide them manually or set them to autohide.  At the
> moment there's no way to temporarily clear child panels from the screen when I
> want to maximise my available screenspace.

Already available in CVS since a couple of weeks ago. There's no autohide
yet, but you can do it manually.

> 
> I really like having the menubar at the top of the screen, but when the front
> app doesn't use it it wastes space and causes confusion.  I find that when I
> change from a KDE app to a GNOME or other X app I still sometimes go to the
> top menubar, rather than the menubar in the app's window.  I would like to be
> able to set the Mac style menubar to hide when I change to an app that doesn't
> use it.  A better solution would be to have the menubar capture the menus of
> non KDE apps, it would make the GUI feel much more consistent, would this be
> possible?

Not possible I'm afraid.

Rich.

> 
> I would like to be able to have a different panel setup on different virtual
> desktops.  That way I could have a desktop without anything to clutter it up
> when running a non KDE app that likes to fill the screen such as StarOffice or
> Opera.  While on another desktop I could have my normal setup with the main
> panel down the side of the screen, a taskbar and a news ticker at the bottom
> and a menubar at the top.  If I could hide the menubar and panels when not
> needed this wouldn't be as necessary, but it would still be a nice feature.
> 
> I think that windows shouldn't open under a panel or the menubar, and I think
> that by default the user shouldn't be able to drag a window's titlebar so that
> it's totally covered by the menubar or a panel.  Quite often new windows open
> with the whole titlebar under the menubar, and it gets much worse if I also
> put a panel such as a taskbar up there.  Alt-dragging the window to get to the
> titlebar is inconvenient, and something that new users probably wouldn't know
> about.
> 
> What do you think of these suggestions?  Is there anything that you would add?
> 
> Steve
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