From kde-look  Sun Mar 11 18:59:07 2001
From: Dave Leigh <dave.leigh () cratchit ! org>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:59:07 +0000
To: kde-look
Subject: Re: kde-look@kde.orgRe: Icon improvements.
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On Sunday 11 March 2001 11:49, Sergej Malinovski wrote:
> Dave Leigh wrote:
> > The biggest reason for "copy on select" is that it gives you
> > interoperability with non-KDE (and even non-X, running in an X-term)
> > applications.
>
> That's the bottom line, yes.
>
> > 1. The result of the actions "select", then "point", then "press center
> > button" should remain unchanged.
> > 2. Ctrl-C should copy the "selection buffer" to a "copy buffer".  Ctrl-X
> > additionally removes the selection.
> > 3. Ctrl-V pastes from the copy buffer.
>
> Aren't you describing the exact behaviour Henry referred to? This *will* be
> better because it removes the current confusion. I would just go a bit
> further, forget about non-KDE apps (as much as I wouldn't want to do that)
> and do what I described in prior mails.

Don't know, don't care.  I'm describing what *I* would like to see.  However, 
if Henry wants to see the same thing, then I'd stand in line to congratulate 
him on his excellent UI design sense. ;)

There is NO WAY I would "forget about non-KDE apps," EVER.  I believe in 
heterogeneous computing environments, and there not only too many existing 
useful non-KDE applications to consider this; there is too much *potential* 
for useful non-KDE applications.  

> However, here's something of a compromise between your suggestion and mine.
> Or it's just a better overall solution :) Implement all this crap as
> described in the document Henry referred to, plus make middle mouse
> configurable. It doesn't have to be as fancy as with most mouse drivers in
> Windows, but there should be two options: middle button pastes from PRIMARY
> (call it "Yank") and middle buttons pastes from SECONDARY (call it
> "Paste"). I would be happy with Paste, and people with non-KDE apps (and
> other intentions) would use Yank as before.
>
> How about this, eh?

You could do this anyway (map the middle button to Ctrl-V, though this could 
be problematic for applications that actually USE the MMB, which is a pretty 
compelling reason for not doing it).  I've got nothing against putting the 
configuration option in the Control Center for convenience, so long as the 
default behaviour = X-Windows behaviour.  Users should not by default have to 
remember (or learn by accident!) that KDE behaviour is somehow different from 
the rest of the Known Unixverse.

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