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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: KSpread's icon...
From:       "Friedrich W. H. Kossebau" <Friedrich.W.H () Kossebau ! de>
Date:       2001-01-29 19:15:23
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> "Friedrich W. H. Kossebau" wrote:
> In my office, there are five people (myself included) who use
> spreadsheets. Of the five, I'm the only one who knew what sigma was.

But the others still have the idea it is something math related, haven't
they?

> > > users. Even spreadsheet users. You'd be amazed how many spreadsheet
> > > users don't even know how to calculate sums! But in any case, I think
> >
> > What are spreadsheets used for, then? I thought summing is the basic
> > operation.
> 
> It is! But even more basic, spreadsheets are good for laying out tables
> of data. The data doesn't have to be numeric, and you don't have to do
> arithmetic on it.
> 
> In my work, we use a lot of spreadsheets to lay out columns and rows of
> requests for credit from customers. Eg we show credit claim number,
> invoice number, invoice date, reason for request, status of request (eg
> pending, accepted, rejected). Not arithmetic needed, not even a plus or
> minus.

I see.
 
> > But with a spreadsheet and a calculator togheter? I think this to be
> > unmistakable.
> 
> That might be nice.

The icon should symbolically show what kind of operations are able with
the program. So the spreadsheet shows a table on it, the calculator
shows that calculations can be done. The Euro symbol is that way
something additional that doesn't give any new information, might also
be understood as the app only handles currency values. I proposed the
sigma to keep the appearance.

But I like Seans idea with the abacus as it fits to kwords icon style
like he pointed out. Now the calculator and the Euro symbol could be
replaced by the abacus. As the icons of all koffice apps have at least
three elements in it there might still be the need of a third element
for KSpread's newly designed icon I think. This need could be covered by
having three spreadsheets fanned out like in KPresenter's icon.

Well, I like this idea. So here I will stop. Nothing more to say. 

Hope this discussion is noticed by some who are on the active side and
who accept the argument against the use of the Euro's symbol ;)

Oh, one more thing: I would also like it if there are different symbols
for an app and the specific document. By KDE 2.0.0 KOffice it is the
same icon for both. And this way it also breaks the style of document
icons who are all based on an white paper with a dog's ear (in german
it's a monkey's ear :).

Friedrich

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