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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: Menubar and toolbars
From:       Waldo Bastian <bastian () suse ! de>
Date:       2000-01-30 19:54:55
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Tomas Furmonavicius wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there are a couple of things I don't like in current KDE's menu bars
> and tool bars.
>
>   1.Tear-off functionality of menu bar is almost useless. I don't
> think that anybody use menu at the bottom of application window. It's
> better to have unmovable menu bar smaller in height to make people
> with small displays (17'' and less) more happy.

This functionality has been removed a few days ago. 

>   2.Combo boxes should not be used in tool bars. There's a problem
> with their dimensions: width is bigger then height. So, if tool bar
> with combo boxes is docked to the side of application window, it
> wastes lots of screen space (and looks ugly).
>   Also, according to the KDE style guide (AFAIK), tool bar buttons
> and menu items must have the same functionality. But functions of
> combo boxes of KOffice apps like "Font size", "Font family" and
> others doesn't have their equivalents in menu bar ! So tool bars is
> the wrong place for such combo boxes.
>   Novell used interesting solution to this problem in its Perfect
> Office (maybe 5 or 6 years ago). All redesigned combo boxes where
> joined to one "listbar". It's something like QHeader widget in Qt,
> but with pop-down (or pop-up) listboxes attached to "listbar's" items
> (I have a screen shot of such a "listbar" implemented with PyQt, if
> somebody is interested).
>
> Separating tool bars with buttons only and using a special widget to
> hold combo boxes could make GUI of KDE (KOffice) apps cleaner.

I'll forward this to the koffice developers.

Cheers,
Waldo

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