From kde-look Tue Nov 16 18:54:31 1999 From: zander () microweb ! nl Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:54:31 +0000 To: kde-look Subject: Re: LONG: File-menu X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-look&m=94277847101786 First off, I think your definition of an application may confuse someone, so let me state an example. I want to edit a text, so I click it. A text editor apears. - one unix proces is started. - an application is created (by that unix proces) - a window is opened. We call this window a document-window. This document window the the front of an application. - extra window (dialogs etc.) have nothing to do with our definiton here! I want to edit another text, I click file->new another window appears. - I reuse the unix proces. - another application is started with - a document window as front-end. I click a text, kde starts another text editor for me. - Same as the last one. Your implementation (I) > SDI implementations (I) > In SDI the application is represented by the document-window. Each > document-window always contains a single document. > > Starting up an SDI application without specifying a document to load > causes the application to pop up a dialog which asks the user whether > he/she wants to open an existing document or whether he/she wants to > create a new one. KDE is icon driven. An application has an icon, a document has an icon. Therefor clicking a document will open the application with that document. clicking the application icon will open the application. I think a small editor does not need a requestor like you state. An application like kWord on the other hand has templates to offer, then it is logical that we see a dialog (like the current situation). Don't show a "new file"/"open file" dialog when you start an application, just open a empty (you call dummy) document. In both I and II you state that quit handles only this application. This is not handy! If I open a lot of documents, I want to be able to close them all with one command. Imagine I start netscape, this application can have dozens of browser windows. I want to quit netscape. That means (to me atleast) that I want to close all the browser windows. Selecting quit closes all my netscapes. In your solution I have to click each and everyone of the browser windows I had open. Not nice!! On the subject of close closes the window or just the document. Look at it from 2 sides. - close closes the window (and the document and application) For: I free up quit to close all of my editors. Against: What if I just wanted to close that window and start editing a new document.. I would have to locate an icon for the application and start a new version. - close closes the document and creates an empty document for me. For: I immidiately can start editing a new document. Against: The only way to close the window is to select the X or quit. Feedback please. -- Thomas Zander zander@microweb.nl Today, it's understood that of course you'll use a computer, because it makes other people's lives easier -- or, more icq: 970 00 05 accurately, it enables them to maintain their manic pace. gpg-key: 0588D5