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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: KDE - own look-and-feel, Version 2.0
From:       Kevin Forge <forgeltd () usa ! net>
Date:       1998-07-27 13:29:49
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Tim N. van der Leeuw wrote:
> 
> Mario Weilguni wrote:
> >
> > Jean-Claude Dumas wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:32:08 +0100, Gunter Ohrner wrote:
> > >
> > Me too. Maybe it's modern, maybe it looks cool, but in facts it's not
> > obvious which item is a pixmap and which one a control. The old-style
> > netscape toolbar (3.0) is much better than the flat one from 4.0.
> 
> Well, I blame Microsoft for this "Innovation". AFAIK, they were the
> first to do it. I think that in most applications it looks really ugly
> too... Netscape being an exception of well-designed icons.
>
Let me just take this and run with it.  Netscape is the Most widely used 
Cross platform Aplication as far as I know.  If you use it as the mole 
for designeing an interface you wold not go wrong.  Frankly I don't know
who invented the flat icons and I don't care.  They paid some Ergonomic
Genius a lot of money to come up with this and they got there moneys
worth
in satisfide users.  Listen to the complaints about Windows 95.  Never
is
it called Ogly by those who actualy use it.  Never do they decry it's 
cosmetic merits.  Eaven joe moron can tell you that it's only bad
because
it dosn't work 1/2 the time and is slow when it dose work.  
>
> "Normal" old-fashioned button-bar style is much better IMHO.
> And I know a lot of people who agree with me.
>
There is a reason developers switched to flat buttons.  They ARE nicer.
That is also the reason Incandescent and Florescent bulbs have replaced
Candles and Lamps an all but Romantic and religious settings.
Usefulness is a quantifiable factor and is based on people using this 
thing and being satisfied with it.  There are problems with KDE but 
the flat buttons and top mounted TABs are not among them.
Drop this argument and stop nagging the developers with things that are
mearly preferences ( red over blue ) Rather than Qualitative deferences
( Gold over Bronze ).
-- 
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backbone, bounced from satellite, Nothing but net."

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