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Subject:    [kde-linux] Fw: Latest KDE printing adventures: Kubuntu Lucid Lynx
From:       Bruce Miller <subscribe () brmiller ! ca>
Date:       2010-01-02 4:45:37
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----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Bruce Miller <subscribe@brmiller.ca>
> To: KDE Linux mailing list <kde-linux@kde.org>
> Cc: John Layt <johnlayt@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 11:38:56 PM
> Subject: Latest KDE printing adventures: Kubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 (alpha)
> 
> I am experiencing a return of old problems (some of them previously solved) with 
> printing from KDE applications in the alpha versions of Kubuntu Lucid Lynx 
> (10.04). At present, printing of text --- at least from Kate --- appears to be 
> working fine; printing from Konqueror is once again a problem. 
> 
> I live in Canada. Although we have largely adopted the metric system, we use US 
> paper sizes. Our standard page size, is therefore not A4, but rather 8.5x11 
> inches. On my ancient HP LaserJet 4l, the imageable area of a US letter page is 
> 8x10 inches. Output from Konqueror does not respect these parameters: the text 
> runs off the bottom of the page. Between 3.5 and 4 lines are lost at the bottom 
> of each page.
> 
> I tested with a longish web page from the kde.org web site believing that, of 
> any webpage, it would be designed to render well in Konqueror. The page I chose 
> is: http:///www.kde.org/whatiskde/project.php.
> 
> The amateur analyst in me is wondering if the A4 page size is perhaps not 
> hard-coded into Konqueror (but not necessarily into Kate). Since A4 is slightly 
> longer (and narrower) than US letter, that could explain the spillover at the 
> bottom the page. It is not possible to determine the default setup because the 
> system-config-printer-kde applet is broken in SystemSettings (Launchpad Bug 
> 331192 and KDE Bug 209379), but the print dialog did specify that it was using 
> US paper sizes.
> 
> Before I file bugs at Launchpad (the Kubuntu bug tracker) and on the KDE 
> Bugzilla, I would be interested to know if others have noted a similar problem.
> 
> I will be posting this message on ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net and to the 
> kde-linux mailing list. The mailing list version will have two attachments: (1) 
> a PDF of the exact state of the web page that I used for the test (I also saved 
> the HTML source); (2) the text file, a dump of line numbers, that I used for 
> testing Kate.
> --
> Bruce Miller, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> bruce@brmiller.ca; (613) 745-1151
> 
> 
> A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never 
> learned to walk forward.
> - Franklin D. Roosevelt


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<h1>Project Overview</h1>

<p>The KDE project is a Free Software project.
KDE groups together hundreds of
software engineers from across the globe,
committed to the development of; and the spirit
of free software.
Every single line of KDE source code is made
available under an open source license. The current
<a href="http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy">licensing policy</a>
is also available online.
This effectively means that everyone is free to
modify and distribute KDE source code. Implications of this fact
are several, in particular
the fact that KDE is available free
of charge to anyone, and will always be so.</p>

<div id="quicklinks">[ <a href="#need">The need for KDE</a> | <a \
href="#usersview">The users view</a> | <a href="#distribution">The Current KDE \
Distribution</a> | <a href="#history">History</a> | <a href="#factsandfigures">Facts \
and Figures</a>]</div>

<h2><a name="need"></a>Why is there a need for KDE?</h2>

<p>
The traditional X11 desktop exhibits amidst others, the following
shortcomings:
</p>
<ul>
<li>No easy dialog based desktop configuration</li>

<li>No unified application help system</li>

<li>No common application development framework</li>

<li>No compound document framework</li>

<li>Lack of network transparency on the application level</li>

<li>Authoring of applications is extremely difficult and tedious</li>
</ul>

<h2><a name="usersview"></a>KDE - The users view</h2>

<p>
For its users KDE brings out an entire barage of
new ideas. Some are:
</p>

<ul>
<li>A "Beautiful" contemporary desktop</li>

<li>Complete network transparency and minimal need
for configuration</li>

<li>An integrated help system, thus allowing convenient and
 consistent access to help on the use of the desktop and
applications</li>

<li>Consistent look and feel</li>

<li>Standardized menus, toolbars, keybindings, color-schemes, etc.</li>

<li>Internationalization: KDE is available in more than 50 languages</li>

<li>Centralized, consistent, dialog driven desktop configurations</li>

<li>A host of useful KDE applications</li>
</ul>

<h2><a name="distribution"></a>The Current KDE distribution</h2>
<p>The current <strong>official</strong> KDE distribution consists
of the following packages:</p>

<ul>
<li>KDE-Libs: Various run-time libraries.</li>

<li>KDE-Base: The base components (window-manager, desktop, panel, Konqueror)</li>

<li>KDE-Plasma-Addons: Additional themes and applets for the desktop and panel</li>

<li>KDE-Network: Networking applications such as an instant messenger and download \
manager.</li>

<li><a href="http://kontact.kde.org/">KDE-Pim</a>: Mail client, addressbook, \
organizer and groupware integration.</li>

<li>KDE-Graphics: Document viewer, image viewer and selected other graphics \
applications.</li>

<li><a href="http://multimedia.kde.org/">KDE-Multimedia</a>: Includes a video player \
as well as different audio players.</li>

<li><a href="http://phonon.kde.org">Phonon</a>: Multimedia layer that
supports different backends, on different operating systems, for multimedia \
output.</li>

<li><a href="http://accessibility.kde.org/">KDE-Accessibility</a>:
Applications to improve computer access for disabled people such as a text-to-speech \
system.</li>

<li><a href="http://utils.kde.org">KDE-Utilities</a>:
Useful utilities like an archiving tool and a calculator.</li>

<li><a href="http://edu.kde.org/">KDE-Edu</a>: Education and science \
applications.</li>

<li><a href="http://games.kde.org/">KDE-Games</a>: Classic and modern games.</li>

<li>KDE-Toys: KDE's fun stuff.</li>

<li><a href="http://kde-artists.org">KDE-Artwork</a>: Additional icons, styles, \
wallpapers, screensavers and window decorations.</li>

<li>KDE-Admin: Various tools to aid with system administration.</li>

<li>KDE-SDK: Script and tools which simplify development of KDE applications.</li>

<li><a href="http://koffice.org/">KOffice</a>: Integrated office suite.</li>

<li><a href="http://kdevelop.org/">KDevelop</a>: C/C++ Integrated Development \
Environment.</li>

<li>KDE-Bindings: bindings for various programming languages (Python, Ruby, Perl, \
Java...).</li>

<li><a href="http://www.kdewebdev.org">KDEWebdev</a>: Web development applications \
and tools.</li> </ul>

<p>Two pseudo-packages <strong>not part of the official release</strong>
are also available.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://extragear.kde.org/">KDE-Extragear</a>: Extragear is a
collection of applications associated with the KDE project, not part of the
official release for various reasons. These are however still part of
the project and can be downloaded separately. This gives them higher
visibility to Translators and Documentation Writers. </li>
<li>KDE-Playground: Similar to KDE-Extragear, this pseudo-package
also contains software not part of the main
KDE release.</li>
</ul>

<p>And last but certainly not the least, there are literally
thousands of excellent KDE applications not part of KDE releases
or the Official KDE project.
You can find these using KDE's <a href="http://www.kde-apps.org">central \
database</a>.</p>

<h2><a name="history"></a>A bit of KDE History</h2>

<ul>
<li>KDE was founded in October 1996. <a href="/documentation/posting.txt">Its \
announcement</a> is dated 14th October 1996.</li>

<li>August 15, 1997: <a href="/kde-one.html">KDE-ONE</a> in
Arnsberg, Germany, 15 participants</li>

<li>December 1997: <a href="../areas/kde-ev/">KDE e.V.i.G.</a> was founded to shield \
core members from legal and financial liabilities</li>

<li>April 8, 1998: The KDE Free Qt Foundation was announced</li>

<li><a href="/announcements/beta1announce.php">Beta 1</a> Oct 20,
1997 - <a href="/announcements/beta2announce.php">Beta 2</a> Nov
23, 1997 - <a href="/announcements/beta3announce.php">Beta3</a>
February 1, 1998 - <a
href="/announcements/beta4announce.php">Beta4</a> April 19,
1998</li>

<li><a href="/announcements/announce-1.0.php">1.0</a> was released
on July 12, 1998</li>

<li>1.1 was released on February 6th, 1999</li>

<li><a href="/announcements/announce-BW-1.1.1.php">1.1.1</a> was
released on May 5th, 1999</li>

<li><a href="/announcements/announce-1.1.2.php">1.1.2</a> was
released on Sep 13th, 1999</li>

<li><a href="/history/kde-two.php">KDE-Two meeting in Erlangen</a>,
Oct 7-10 1999</li>

<li><a href="/announcements/announce-1.89.php">1.89</a> was
released on Dec 15th, 1999</li>

<li><a href="/announcements/announce-1.90.php">1.90 (KDE2
beta1)</a> May 12th, 2000 - <a
href="/announcements/announce-1.91.php">1.91 (KDE2 beta2)</a> June
14th, 2000 - <a href="/announcements/announce-1.92.php">1.92 (KDE2
beta3)</a> July 31st, 2000</li>

<li><a href="/history/kde-threeb1.php">KDE-Three Beta
meeting in Trysil (Norway)</a>, July 9-19 2000</li>

<li><a href="/announcements/announce-1.93.php">1.93 (KDE2
beta4)</a> was released on August 23th, 2000</li>

<li><a href="http://www.trolltech.com/company/announce/gpl.php">Qt
goes GPL</a> September 04th, 2000</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-1.94.php">1.94 (KDE2
beta5)</a> was released on September 15th, 2000</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.0-RC2.php">2.0 Release
Candidate</a> was released on October 10th, 2000</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.0.php">2.0</a> was
released on October 23th, 2000</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.0.1.php">2.0.1</a> was
released on December 5th, 2000</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.1-beta1.php">2.1 Beta
1</a> was released on December 16th, 2000</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.1-beta2.php">2.1 Beta
2</a> was released on January 31st, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.1.php">2.1</a> was
released on February 26th, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.1.1.php">2.1.1</a> was
released on March 27th, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.1.2.php">2.1.2</a> was
released on April 30th, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.2-beta1.php">2.2 Beta1</a> was
released on July 4th, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.2.php">2.2</a> was
released on August 15th, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.2.1.php">2.2.1</a> was
released on September 19th, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-2.2.2.php">2.2.2</a> was
released on November 21st, 2001</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.0.php">3.0</a> was
released on April 3rd, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.0.1.php">3.0.1</a> was
released on May 22th, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.0.2.php">3.0.2</a> was
released on July 2nd, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1alpha1.php">3.1 Alpha1</a> was
released on July 11th, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.0.3.php">3.0.3</a> was
released on August 19th, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1beta1.php">3.1 Beta1</a> was
released on August 21st, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1beta2.php">3.1 Beta2</a> was
released on October 2nd, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.0.4.php">3.0.4</a> was
released on October 9th, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.0.5.php">3.0.5</a> was
released on November 18th, 2002</li>

<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.0.5a.php">3.0.5a</a> was
released on December 21st, 2002</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1.php">3.1</a> was released
on January 28th, 2003</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1.1.php">3.1.1</a> was released
on March 20th, 2003</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1.2.php">3.1.2</a> was released
on May 19th, 2003</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1.3.php">3.1.3</a> was released
on July 29th, 2003</li>
<li><a href="http://dot.kde.org/1063222993/">3.2 Alpha 1</a> was released
on September 10th, 2003</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1.4.php">3.1.4</a> was released
on September 16th, 2003</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.1.5.php">3.1.5</a> was released
on January 14th, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.2.php">3.2</a> was released
on February 3rd, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.2.1.php">3.2.1</a> was released
on March 9th, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.2.2.php">3.2.2</a> was released
on April 19th, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.2.3.php">3.2.3</a> was released
on June 9th, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.3.php">3.3</a> was released
on August 19th, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.3.1.php">3.3.1</a> was released
on October 12th, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.3.2.php">3.3.2</a> was released
on December 8th, 2004</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.4.php">3.4</a> was released
on March 16th, 2005</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.4.1.php">3.4.1</a> was released
on May 31st, 2005</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.4.2.php">3.4.2</a> was released
on July 28th, 2005</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.4.3.php">3.4.3</a> was released
on October 13th, 2005</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.php">3.5</a> was released
on November 29th, 2005</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.1.php">3.5.1</a> was released
on January 31st, 2006</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.2.php">3.5.2</a> was released
on March 28th, 2006</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.3.php">3.5.3</a> was released
on May 31st, 2006</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.4.php">3.5.4</a> was released
on August 2nd, 2006</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.5.php">3.5.5</a> was released
on October 11th, 2006</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.6.php">3.5.6</a> was released
on January 25th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-alpha1.php">4.0 Alpha 1</a>
was released on May 11th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.7.php">3.5.7</a> was released
on May 22nd, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-alpha2.php">4.0 Alpha 2</a>
was released on July 4th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-beta1.php">4.0 Beta 1</a>
was released on August 2nd, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-beta2.php">4.0 Beta 2</a>
was released on September 6th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.8.php">3.5.8</a> was released
on October 16th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-beta3.php">4.0 Beta 3</a>
was released on October 18th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-beta4.php">4.0 Beta 4</a>
was released on October 30th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-beta3.php">4.0 Development Platform \
Release Candidate 1</a> was released on October 30th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-rc1.php">4.0 RC 1</a>
was released on November 20th, 2007</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0-rc2.php">4.0 RC 2</a>
was released on December 11th, 2007</li>
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was released on January 11th, 2008</li>
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was released on February 5th, 2008</li>
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was released on February 19th, 2008</li>
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was released on March 5th, 2008</li>
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was released on April 2nd, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1-alpha1.php">4.1 Alpha1</a>
was released on April 29th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0.4.php">4.0.4</a>
was released on May 7th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1-beta1.php">4.1 Beta 1</a>
was released on May 27th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.0.5.php">4.0.5</a>
was released on June 4th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1-beta2.php">4.1 Beta 2</a>
was released on June 24th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1-rc1.php">4.1 RC1</a>
was released on July 15th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/4.1">4.1</a>
was released on July 29th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-3.5.10.php">3.5.10</a>
was released on August 26th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1.1.php">4.1.1</a>
was released on September 3rd, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1.2.php">4.1.2</a>
was released on October 3rd, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1.3.php">4.1.3</a>
was released on November 5th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.2-beta1.php">4.2 Beta 1</a>
was released on November 26th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.2-beta2.php">4.2 Beta 2</a>
was released on December 18th, 2008</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.1.4.php">4.1.4</a>
was released on January 13th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.2-rc.php">4.2 RC</a>
was released on January 13th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/4.2.php">4.2.0</a>
was released on January 27th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.2.1.php">4.2.1</a>
was released on March 4th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.2.2.php">4.2.2</a>
was released on April 2nd, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.2.3.php">4.2.3</a>
was released on May 6th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3-beta1.php">4.3 Beta 1</a>
was released on May 13th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.2.4.php">4.2.4</a>
was released on June 3rd, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3-beta2.php">4.3 Beta 2</a>
was released on June 10th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3-rc1.php">4.3 RC1</a>
was released on July 1st, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3-rc2.php">4.3 RC2</a>
was released on July 9th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3-rc3.php">4.3 RC3</a>
was released on July 22nd, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/4.3/">4.3.0</a>
was released on August 4th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3.1.php">4.3.1</a>
was released on September 1st, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3.2.php">4.3.2</a>
was released on October 6th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3.3.php">4.3.3</a>
was released on November 3rd, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.3.4.php">4.3.4</a>
was released on December 1st, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.4-beta1.php">4.4 Beta 1</a>
was released on December 4th, 2009</li>
<li><a href="../announcements/announce-4.4-beta2.php">4.4 Beta 2</a>
was released on December 21st, 2009</li>
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