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List:       kde-linux
Subject:    Re: [kde-linux] Forwarding mail using kmail
From:       Andreas Pour <pour () knewton ! biz>
Date:       2007-05-29 7:26:06
Message-ID: 553267.76287.qm () web54102 ! mail ! re2 ! yahoo ! com
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The problem is KDE does not have an HTML editor.  This is not something trivial to \
overcome.  You can use Thunderbird or something like Yahoo if you need an HTML \
composer / editor.

----- Original Message ----
From: Dan <dmisc@charter.net>
To: dwm@findmoore.net; For people using KDE on Linux with related questions/problems \
                <kde-linux@kde.org>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:50:55 PM
Subject: Re: [kde-linux] Forwarding mail using kmail

Hi David,

Thanks for your response.  I read your articles, however I still want to 
send HTML emails.  All my friends are on Windows and that is what
they send me.  Kmail does display the message fine and it will
forward the HTML email fine provided it is sent as an attachment.
However everybody wants their email address removed before the
email is forwarded.  Kmail can not modify the HTML email before it
is forwarded.  Because of this I have all my friends send their
message to Both Linux and Windows, that way if I want to forward
the message I can edit it on Windows before I forward it.  It would
seem you want to protect me from myself.  What I like about Linux
it that it just does what I tell it without a lot of "do you know what
you are doing questions".  What would be wrong with an option that
would allow people like to shoot themselves in the foot if they want
to? :) :)

Fedora 6 Kmail 1.9.6

BTW I'm just don't have the time to convert HMTL emails I receive 
to a website.

All the best,
Dan

On Monday 28 May 2007, David wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > Hi Dale,
> > 
> > Windows handles email perfectly with pictures and the ability
> > to edit your HTML email with the ability to cut and paste HTML
> > email without losing the formating.  This is one of reasons I still
> > have a Windows computer besides my Linux computer.
> > 
> > All the best,
> > Dan
> 
> Dan,
> 
> Try changing your word length to about 72 characters. It is really
> a bitch to have to scroll left and right to just read what has been
> posted. I know Linux can handle it and I am sure that Windows can
> also. FWIW, Linux can handle html emails just fine. Perhaps the
> distro he is using has set the client to no show html email. He never
> mentioned what Linux distro or email client that he was using. 
> Perhaps if he would of mentioned what he was using, someone could of
> given him a more precise answer. Sending html email is just a bad
> idea for so many reasons, here are a few that will explain it
> 
> http://www.expita.com/nomime.html
> http://www.freeantispam.org/html-email.php
> http://grimthing.com/archives/2004/04/10/why-html-email-is-bad/
> 
> If that isn't reason enough, even some major ISP's mark html as spam.
> I have also have my email servers set up to mark them as spam.  HTML
> email take up lots of bandwidth, I am sure those that are on dialup
> will appreciate it if one just sent plain text emails.
> 
> If one really wants to make sure that their email goes through send
> it in plain text.  If one must display pictures or have html, than
> build a website to display that stuff and send the person a link to
> it.
> 
> > On Monday 28 May 2007, Dale wrote:
> > > David wrote:
> > > > Bob & Gail wrote:
> > > > > When I forward an email which includes embedded images in the
> > > > > text, they are removed and the only reference to them is at the
> > > > > end of the email. Is there anyway I can forward email leaving
> > > > > the images in the correct place as per the original email.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bob
> 
> <snip>
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york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new \
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>The problem is KDE does not have an HTML \
editor.&nbsp; This is not something trivial to overcome.&nbsp; You can use \
Thunderbird or something like Yahoo if you need an HTML composer / \
editor.<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; \
font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Dan \
&lt;dmisc@charter.net&gt;<br>To: dwm@findmoore.net; For people using KDE on Linux \
with related questions/problems &lt;kde-linux@kde.org&gt;<br>Sent: Monday, May 28, \
2007 11:50:55 PM<br>Subject: Re: [kde-linux] Forwarding mail using \
kmail<br><br><div>Hi David,<br><br>Thanks for your response.&nbsp;&nbsp;I read your \
articles, however I still want to <br>send HTML emails.&nbsp;&nbsp;All my friends are \
on Windows and that is  what<br>they send me.&nbsp;&nbsp;Kmail does display the \
message fine and it will<br>forward the HTML email fine provided it is sent as an \
attachment.<br>However everybody wants their email address removed before \
the<br>email is forwarded.&nbsp;&nbsp;Kmail can not modify the HTML email before \
it<br>is forwarded.&nbsp;&nbsp;Because of this I have all my friends send \
their<br>message to Both Linux and Windows, that way if I want to forward<br>the \
message I can edit it on Windows before I forward it.&nbsp;&nbsp;It would<br>seem you \
want to protect me from myself.&nbsp;&nbsp;What I like about Linux<br>it that it just \
does what I tell it without a lot of "do you know what<br>you are doing \
questions".&nbsp;&nbsp;What would be wrong with an option that<br>would allow people \
like to shoot themselves in the foot if they want<br>to? :) :)<br><br>Fedora 6 Kmail \
1.9.6<br><br>BTW I'm just don't have the time to convert HMTL emails I receive <br>to \
a website.<br><br>All the  best,<br>Dan<br><br>On Monday 28 May 2007, David \
wrote:<br>&gt; Dan wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Hi Dale,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows handles email perfectly with pictures and the \
ability<br>&gt; &gt; to edit your HTML email with the ability to cut and paste \
HTML<br>&gt; &gt; email without losing the formating.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is one of \
reasons I still<br>&gt; &gt; have a Windows computer besides my Linux \
computer.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; All the best,<br>&gt; &gt; Dan<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
Dan,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Try changing your word length to about 72 \
characters. It is really<br>&gt; a bitch to have to scroll left and right to just \
read what has been<br>&gt; posted. I know Linux can handle it and I am sure that \
Windows can<br>&gt; also. FWIW, Linux can handle html emails just fine. Perhaps \
the<br>&gt; distro he is using has set the client to no show html email. He \
never<br>&gt; mentioned what Linux distro or email client that he was  using. \
<br>&gt; Perhaps if he would of mentioned what he was using, someone could of<br>&gt; \
given him a more precise answer. Sending html email is just a bad<br>&gt; idea for so \
many reasons, here are a few that will explain it<br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a target="_blank" \
href="http://www.expita.com/nomime.html">http://www.expita.com/nomime.html</a><br>&gt; \
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.freeantispam.org/html-email.php">http://www.freeantispam.org/html-email.php</a><br>&gt; \
<a target="_blank" href="http://grimthing.com/archives/2004/04/10/why-html-email-is-ba \
d/">http://grimthing.com/archives/2004/04/10/why-html-email-is-bad/</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
If that isn't reason enough, even some major ISP's mark html as spam.<br>&gt; I have \
also have my email servers set up to mark them as spam.&nbsp;&nbsp;HTML<br>&gt; email \
take up lots of bandwidth, I am sure those that are on dialup<br>&gt; will appreciate \
it if one just sent plain text emails.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; If one really wants to  make \
sure that their email goes through send<br>&gt; it in plain text.&nbsp;&nbsp;If one \
must display pictures or have html, than<br>&gt; build a website to display that \
stuff and send the person a link to<br>&gt; it.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; On Monday 28 May \
2007, Dale wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; David wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Bob &amp; Gail \
wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; When I forward an email which includes embedded \
images in the<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; text, they are removed and the only reference \
to them is at the<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; end of the email. Is there anyway I can \
forward email leaving<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the images in the correct place as per \
the original email.<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; \
Bob<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &lt;snip&gt;<br>&gt; \
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