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Subject:    Re: Licensing for models and datasets
From:       "Emmet O'Neill" <emmetoneill.pdx () gmail ! com>
Date:       2024-03-25 16:33:06
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1.) Does the dataset contain full, original training images or just plain
text links to images?

If it's just links and metadata, then one of the various CCs is fine.
Some popular datasets include entire images, in which case... I don't know.
I'd avoid that...

2.) If we don't own the data used to "train" the binary blob model, do we
even own the model?

Obviously only the owner of some work can license it to others.
We're kind of in legal no-man's land with all this stuff, so I don't know
and I don't expect you to know either, but it feels like due diligence to
consider it.
Does Intel have any suggestions about this? What do they do?

Even doing my best to put aside my personal (well-documented) feelings on
copyright and generative AI aside, I don't really understand the
legal/licensing mechanics of all this stuff to help you make a good
judgement here.
If nothing else I'm curious to see where this stuff leads Krita.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 7:17 AM Halla Rempt <halla@valdyas.org> wrote:

> We're looking into adding an experimental AI-based feature to Krita:
> automated inking. That gives us three components, and we're not sure about
> the license we should use for two of them: the model and the datase. Would
> CC be best here?
>
> Halla
>
>
>

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<div dir="ltr"><div>1.) Does the dataset contain full, original training images or \
just plain text links to images? <br></div><div><br></div><div>If it&#39;s just links \
and metadata, then one of the various CCs is fine.</div><div>Some popular datasets \
include entire images, in which case... I don&#39;t know. I&#39;d avoid \
that...<br></div><div><br></div><div>2.) If we don&#39;t own the data used to \
&quot;train&quot; the binary blob model, do we even own the model?  \
</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously only the owner of some work can license it to \
others.</div><div>We&#39;re kind of in legal no-man&#39;s land with all this stuff, \
so I don&#39;t know and I don&#39;t expect you to know either, but it feels like due \
diligence to consider it.</div><div>Does Intel have any suggestions about this? What \
do they do?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Even doing my best to put aside my personal \
(well-documented) feelings on copyright and generative AI aside, I don&#39;t really \
understand the legal/licensing mechanics of all this stuff to help you make a good \
judgement here.  </div><div>If nothing else I&#39;m curious to see where this stuff \
leads Krita.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 7:17 AM Halla Rempt &lt;<a \
href="mailto:halla@valdyas.org">halla@valdyas.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">We&#39;re looking into adding an experimental \
AI-based feature to Krita: automated inking. That gives us three components, and \
we&#39;re not sure about the license we should use for two of them: the model and the \
datase. Would CC be best here?<br> <br>
Halla<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>



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