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Subject: Re: report about share.krita.org
From: Dmitry Kazakov <dimula73 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2016-07-11 10:28:13
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That is an awesome news! We wanted it for so long. I've even been contacted
by a man from Russia who wanted to write some king of backend for such a
site! I can write him again if you give any details about the new engine.
Btw, when I try to enter share.krita.org, I am asked for an authorization.
It is expected, right?
And who owns the servers and the backend's code? opendesktop or kde?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> We've been discussing the need for a kind of store/sharing website where
> people
> can share and maybe even sell resources like bundles or templates for some
> time now. We got a bit closer this week.
>
> There used to be GHNS (Get Hot New Stuff) and Krita used to have GHNS
> integration. However, we did not have access to the backend of the
> opendesktop website, couldn't curate our store or manage the community.
>
> Recently, the opendesktop family of websites changed hands, and we visited
> the
> new owner in Bielefeld last Sunday. That's me and Wolthera. We discussed a
> number
> of things:
>
> * An app store where people can download appimages of Linux applications
>
> (And maybe later windows, OSX and other versions). This would tie in to a
> CI
> system so we could get builds at the press of a button. Krita would be a
> sort
> of testcase of this system. Lots of pieces are in place, but neither the
> app
> store nor the final stages of CI that would generate installable artefacts
> are
> there yet. The desire to get there is clear, though.
>
> * share.krita.org.
>
> A specialized opendesktop-based sharing website. There is a prototype
> running
> which can be customized to a limited extent (logo, colors, categories of
> shareable resources). The domain name and the test website are linked up,
> but it's still showing old and irrelevant content.
>
> For share.krita.org, we've got to go through a bunch of iterations to get
> to
> something really cool:
>
> 1. Attica/GHNS: the GHNS KF5 framework is Tier 3, so we cannot use it. Dan
> Leinir is working on splitting it up in a Tier 2 core framework and a Tier
> 3
> UI framework, though. When that is nearing completion we can...
>
> 2. Start re-integrating GHNS in Krita. For 3.0, we removed all that code,
> and we cannot just revert that because we'll likely have to do the gui on
> our
> own.
>
> 3. (Parellel to 1 and 2). Build up a new website for sharing. The prototype
> is already more extensive than what used to be available, it's possible for
> instance for people to donate to the resource creators already.
>
> For now, I've defined the following categories of resources that can be
> shared:
>
> * bundles
> * templates
> * python plugins
> * python scripts
> * artwork and tutorials
>
> 4. The website should be developed further, so people can use it as a
> content
> publication platform; there should be collaboration features, too, imo. It
> should also become possible to put resources up for sale, not just give
> away
> + donations asked.
>
> --
> Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.krita.org, http://www.valdyas.org
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> kimageshop@kde.org
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>
--
Dmitry Kazakov
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div>That is an awesome news! We wanted it for so long. I've \
even been contacted by a man from Russia who wanted to write some king of backend for \
such a site! I can write him again if you give any details about the new \
engine.<br><br></div>Btw, when I try to enter <a \
href="http://share.krita.org">share.krita.org</a>, I am asked for an authorization. \
It is expected, right?<br><br></div>And who owns the servers and the backend's \
code? opendesktop or kde?<br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:23 PM, \
Boudewijn Rempt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org" \
target="_blank">boud@valdyas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi!<br> <br>
We've been discussing the need for a kind of store/sharing website where \
people<br> can share and maybe even sell resources like bundles or templates for \
some<br> time now. We got a bit closer this week.<br>
<br>
There used to be GHNS (Get Hot New Stuff) and Krita used to have GHNS<br>
integration. However, we did not have access to the backend of the<br>
opendesktop website, couldn't curate our store or manage the community.<br>
<br>
Recently, the opendesktop family of websites changed hands, and we visited the<br>
new owner in Bielefeld last Sunday. That's me and Wolthera. We discussed a \
number<br> of things:<br>
<br>
* An app store where people can download appimages of Linux applications<br>
<br>
(And maybe later windows, OSX and other versions). This would tie in to a CI<br>
system so we could get builds at the press of a button. Krita would be a sort<br>
of testcase of this system. Lots of pieces are in place, but neither the app<br>
store nor the final stages of CI that would generate installable artefacts are<br>
there yet. The desire to get there is clear, though.<br>
<br>
* <a href="http://share.krita.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">share.krita.org</a>.<br> <br>
A specialized opendesktop-based sharing website. There is a prototype running<br>
which can be customized to a limited extent (logo, colors, categories of<br>
shareable resources). The domain name and the test website are linked up,<br>
but it's still showing old and irrelevant content.<br>
<br>
For <a href="http://share.krita.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">share.krita.org</a>, we've got to go through a bunch of \
iterations to get to<br> something really cool:<br>
<br>
1. Attica/GHNS: the GHNS KF5 framework is Tier 3, so we cannot use it. Dan<br>
Leinir is working on splitting it up in a Tier 2 core framework and a Tier 3<br>
UI framework, though. When that is nearing completion we can...<br>
<br>
2. Start re-integrating GHNS in Krita. For 3.0, we removed all that code,<br>
and we cannot just revert that because we'll likely have to do the gui on our<br>
own.<br>
<br>
3. (Parellel to 1 and 2). Build up a new website for sharing. The prototype<br>
is already more extensive than what used to be available, it's possible for<br>
instance for people to donate to the resource creators already.<br>
<br>
For now, I've defined the following categories of resources that can be \
shared:<br> <br>
* bundles<br>
* templates<br>
* python plugins<br>
* python scripts<br>
* artwork and tutorials<br>
<br>
4. The website should be developed further, so people can use it as a content<br>
publication platform; there should be collaboration features, too, imo. It<br>
should also become possible to put resources up for sale, not just give away<br>
+ donations asked.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
--<br>
Boudewijn Rempt | <a href="http://www.krita.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://www.krita.org</a>, <a href="http://www.valdyas.org" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.valdyas.org</a><br> \
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target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop</a><br> \
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div \
class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Dmitry Kazakov</div> </div>
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