'Re: What to do with the Krita & Calligra?'

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List:       kde-kimageshop
Subject:    Re: What to do with the Krita & Calligra?
From:       Boudewijn Rempt <boud () valdyas ! org>
Date:       2016-05-30 15:21:36
Message-ID: alpine.LNX.2.00.1605301721100.25280 () calcifer ! valdyas ! org
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On Mon, 30 May 2016, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

> 
> Hi Boud,
> Is the situation different in this regard than it was in KOffice 1 -> Calligra 2 \
> time? Co-installation was not there and is not here in case of Calligra 2/3 apps. \
> Maybe package(s) of Krita 3 can be marked as obsoleting calligra-krita (2), \
> whatever the package name is in given distro.

_If_ distributions can do that without obsoleting also calligralibs -- I'm not sure \
about that.

> 
> Perhaps we can afford to have proper update for README.PACKAGERS.
> 
> Somewhat apparent change is lack of krita -> calligralibs dependency but it's kind \
> of transparent for users. 
> 
> On 30 May 2016 at 16:39,
> Friedrich W. H. Kossebau <kossebau@kde.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am Montag, 30. Mai 2016, 16:14:32 CEST schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tomorrow we'll release Krita 3.0.
> 
> So awesome to have reached that point :)
> 
> > At that point, the stable version
> > of Krita is no longer part of Calligra. On the other hand, Krita is
> > still part of the last stable release of Calligra, which makes it
> > hard for distributions to package both and make them coinstallable.
> 
> Does it? Did anyone report problems?
> 
> > When we split up Krita and Calligra I had expected both projects to
> > release more or less at the same moment, especially because the port
> > seemed to have posed much fewer problems for Calligra than for Krita.
> > 
> > The question is: what do we do now? I guess there are three options:
> > 
> > * Also release Calligra 3.0 Really Soon Now
> 
> Sadly not possible, given the lack of dev resources at the moment.
> 
> > * Make a Calligra 2.9 release without Krita
> 
> Would that be really needed? Unless some distri packages all of Calligra into
> one package (which would be aweful and IMHO not supported by us), packagers
> should be able to create packages of new Krita next to packages from the old
> calligra, no?
> 
> > * Accept the problem and do nothing
> 
> Packagers could be told to use the cmake flag "-DBUILD_krita=off" with the
> existing calligra 2.9 tarball, that should in theory work to skip krita. But
> well, I am not sure what the problem is.
> 
> > There is a simular problem with the calligra.org website: when will
> > we remove Krita from the website? When there's a new Calligta
> > release, now that there's a new Krita release, or...
> 
> IMHO as soon as Krita 3 is out. The old landing page on calligra.org/krita
> would tell about Krita now grown up to be a project of its own.
> 
> 
> @Cyrille: Would you be able to update the site with at putting least proper links \
> to krita.org? Or hand over to someone else. 
> A short list:
> - I have no access here:
> update the menu by removing Krita (2 places)
> -Editing possible, I can try: remove the \
> https://www.calligra.org/tour/calligra-suite/graphics-applications/ and unlink \
> it from https://www.calligra.org/tour/calligra-suite/
> -Editing possible, Boud: would you try? calligra.org/krita page stays (as it's \
> target from elsewhere in the internet) but needs update - mentioning the change
> -calligra.org artwork - I am volunteering to cut off one app :)
> -places such as wikipedia would need updates, please consider changed for your \
> language :)   
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> 
> 
> 
> --
> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
> 
> KDE:
> > A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
> > and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
> Calligra Suite:
> > A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
> Kexi:
> > A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
> Qt Certified Specialist:
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
> 
> 

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Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.krita.org, http://www.valdyas.org

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