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Subject:    Re: Some UX nightmares that may come up.
From:       Valerie <valerie_vk () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2015-04-10 1:39:15
Message-ID: 399315153.4062.1428629955357.JavaMail.yahoo () mail ! yahoo ! com
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How about custom dockers (if technically feasible)?
You drag and drop smaller versions of whatever is in the main brush control panel \
into a custom docker: sliders, curves, checkboxes, etc. I remember someone asking for \
a docker with sliders and such because he often tweaks smaller settings on the fly \
(in MyPaint). With a custom docker, users can decide what they need on their own. I \
can imagine tablet users regularly tweaking the pressure curve, for example.

It'll be brush-engine dependent, so changing the brush engine being used changes the \
custom settings available (like with tool options).

      From: Wolthera <griffinvalley@gmail.com>
 To: Scott Petrovic <scottpetrovic@gmail.com> 
Cc: Krita's developers and users mailing list <kimageshop@kde.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 7:49 PM
 Subject: Some UX nightmares that may come up.
   
Hey Scott,

In case I miss you today.

One of the things that seems like it's going to be a stretch-goal is the idea of \
shortcuts or quick ways to modify brush settings.

Basically, people want to modify these settings on the fly, like how shift, or ']' \
can change the brush size.

Problems include:
* We have a ton of brush engines, which don't always share the same settings.
* We have a ton of settings in general, which are we going to prioritise?
* Even if we made an increase/decrease/shift-style-resize action for every setting, \
how do we allow for customising these without overwhelming the user?

While being marked as a stretch goal doesn't mean it'll definitely be in 3.1, I think \
it's a good idea we start mulling about this, and it might be something you and \
mmolch could brainstorm about.

-- 
Wolthera
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id="yui_3_16_0_1_1428629389716_2867"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1428629389716_2998">How \
about custom dockers (if technically feasible)?</span></div><div \
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id="yui_3_16_0_1_1428629389716_2951">You drag and drop smaller versions of whatever \
is in the main brush control panel into a custom docker: sliders, curves, checkboxes, \
etc. I remember someone asking for a docker with sliders and such because he often \
tweaks smaller settings on the fly (in MyPaint). With a custom docker, users can \
decide what they need on their own. I can imagine tablet users regularly tweaking the \
pressure curve, for example.<br></span></div><div \
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id="yui_3_16_0_1_1428629389716_3058">It'll be brush-engine dependent, so changing the \
brush engine being used changes the custom settings available (like with tool \
options).<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1428629389716_3051"><br>  </div><div \
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style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Wolthera \
&lt;griffinvalley@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: \
bold;">To:</span></b> Scott Petrovic &lt;scottpetrovic@gmail.com&gt; <br><b><span \
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Thursday, April 9, 2015 7:49 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1428629389716_3183"><span \
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id="yui_3_16_0_1_1428629389716_3121">Hey Scott,<br><br>In case I miss you \
today.<br><br></div>One of the things that seems like it's going to be a stretch-goal \
is the idea of shortcuts or quick ways to modify brush \
settings.<br><br></div>Basically, people want to modify these settings on the fly, \
like how shift, or ']' can change the brush size.<br><br></div>Problems \
include:<br></div>* We have a ton of brush engines, which don't always share the same \
settings.<br></div>* We have a ton of settings in general, which are we going to \
prioritise?<br></div>* Even if we made an increase/decrease/shift-style-resize action \
for every setting, how do we allow for customising these without overwhelming the \
user?<br><br></div>While being marked as a stretch goal doesn't mean it'll definitely \
be in 3.1, I think it's a good idea we start mulling about this, and it might be \
something you and mmolch could brainstorm about.<br \
clear="all"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br>-- \
<br><div class="yiv5643627765gmail_signature">Wolthera</div> \
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