From kde-kimageshop Tue Mar 24 12:34:36 2015 From: Bol Bib Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:34:36 +0000 To: kde-kimageshop Subject: RE: on krita animation functionality Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-kimageshop&m=142720049023903 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============8489531947485857893==" --===============8489531947485857893== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2843bc93-5d8c-4504-a525-7d41501f3f83_" --_2843bc93-5d8c-4504-a525-7d41501f3f83_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah i was pretty sure it was vector indeed. but looking at the line tool=2C a curve tool should be possible in some way= . but I would welcome what you proposed as well. Anything to make that slow p= rocess faster and better would be of much help. I can imagine a tool =20 [dreammode on] press 2 points =2Cyou get a line. If you drag the line it becomes a curve press a generated floating icon next to each point you made to continue the= curve/line seamlessly.=20 Use modifier keys to make the continuation smooth or linear.=20 Each point you set is still dragable=2Cas well as the curve for more contro= l.=20 Be able to change width of brush in any place (least important part but co= uld be very powerful) [dreammode off] it's nice to dream =2CI guess =3D) Date: Mon=2C 23 Mar 2015 22:24:13 +0100 From: animtim@gmail.com To: kimageshop@kde.org Subject: Re: on krita animation functionality =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Le 23/03/2015 21:55=2C Bol Bib a =E9crit : =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From about 9:50 it gets really interesting with=0A= the tools that are present. =0A= =20 =0A= I wonder if this is something that can only done with vector =2Cor= =0A= if this could also be tried with normal brushes (hard opaque) =0A= =20 =0A= =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= For what it's worth=2C everything shown in this video is based on=0A= vector inking tools. =0A= =20 =0A= Long time ago=2C I made a feature request to add some similar advanced= =0A= vector inking system based on the calligraphy tool=2C but in its=0A= current state it may be better to start something new from scratch. =0A= =20 =0A= https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D265814 =0A= =20 =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= The eraser at junctions seems kinda hard.=20 =0A= The Smooth tool is actually like a dedicated warp tool=0A= perhaps...? =0A= =20 =0A= The most achievable one however =2Cfor bitmap=2Cseems to be the=0A= curve tool. =0A= A dedicated curve tool that works more like the line tool could=0A= be a nice extra addition. =0A= Either that or the bezier curve would need a few extra options=0A= or some worfklow improvements. =0A= =20 =0A= =20 =0A= I have a few ideas on how to implement this in a tool that would=0A= work conceptually better then the one you see there. The only=0A= thing is if it's possible to do=2Cfor that I will need developper= =0A= feedback.. =0A= =20 =0A= =20 =0A= =20 =0A= > Date: Sun=2C 22 Mar 2015 11:23:07 -0300 =0A= > From: crowbirdfly@gmail.com =0A= > To: kimageshop@kde.org =0A= > Subject: on krita animation functionality =0A= >=20 =0A= > Good day. =0A= > Since krita is going for animation in de next major=0A= release =0A= > i'd like the developers to look at this =0A= > functionality =0A= >=20 =0A= > http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/video/300/#play-1 =0A= >=20 =0A= > it will definitely make animation easier =0A= > none of the western type animation products have this =0A= > paint tool sai does have SOMETHing like this but it is=0A= not this easy =0A= >=20 =0A= > cheers =0A= > _______________________________________________ =0A= > Krita mailing list =0A= > kimageshop@kde.org =0A= > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop =0A= =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= Krita mailing list=0A= kimageshop@kde.org=0A= https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop=0A= =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= =0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= Krita mailing list=0A= kimageshop@kde.org=0A= https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop = --_2843bc93-5d8c-4504-a525-7d41501f3f83_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yeah i was pretty sure it was ve= ctor indeed.


but looking at the line tool=2C a curve tool should= be possible in some way.

but I would welcome what you proposed as w= ell. Anything to make that slow process faster and better would be of much = help.


I can imagine a tool =3B

[dreammode on]
pre= ss 2 points =2Cyou get a line. If you drag the line it becomes a curve
p= ress a generated floating icon next to each point you made to continue the = curve/line seamlessly.
Use modifier keys to make the continuation smoot= h or linear.
Each point you set is still dragable=2Cas well as the curv= e for more control.
Be able to change width of =3B brush in any pla= ce (least important part but could be very powerful)

[dreammode off]=


it's nice to dream =2CI guess =3D)


Date: Mon=2C 23 Mar 2015 22:24:13 +0100
From: animtim@gmail.com<= br>To: kimageshop@kde.org
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Le 23/03/2015 21:55=2C Bol Bib a =E9c= rit =3B:
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From about =3B 9:50 it gets really interesting w= ith=0A= the tools that are present.
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=0A= I wonder if this is something that can only done with vector =2Cor= =0A= if this could also be tried with normal brushes (hard opaque)
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=0A= For what it's worth=2C everything shown in this video is based on=0A= vector inking tools.
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=0A= Long time ago=2C I made a feature request to add some similar advanced= =0A= vector inking system based on the calligraphy tool=2C but in its=0A= current state it may be better to start something new from scratch.
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=0A= https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?i= d=3D265814
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=0A= The eraser at junctions seems kinda hard.
=0A= The Smooth tool is actually like a dedicated warp tool=0A= perhaps...?
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=0A= The most achievable one however =2Cfor bitmap=2Cseems to be the=0A= curve tool.
=0A= A dedicated curve tool that works more like the line tool could=0A= be a nice extra addition.
=0A= Either that or the bezier curve would need a few extra options=0A= or some worfklow improvements.
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=0A= I have a few ideas on how to implement this in a tool that would=0A= work conceptually better then the one you see there. The only=0A= thing is if it's possible to do=2Cfor that I will need developper= =0A= feedback..
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>=3B Date: Sun=2C 22 Mar 2015 11:23:07 -0300
=0A= >=3B From: crowbirdfly@gmail.com
=0A= >=3B To: kimageshop@kde.org
=0A= >=3B Subject: on krita animation functionality
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=0A= >=3B Good day.
=0A= >=3B Since krita is going for animation in de next major=0A= release
=0A= >=3B i'd like the developers to look at this
=0A= >=3B functionality
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=0A= >=3B http://www.animene= wsnetwork.com/video/300/#play-1
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=0A= >=3B it will definitely make animation easier
=0A= >=3B none of the western type animation products have this
= =0A= >=3B paint tool sai does have SOMETHing like this but it is=0A= not this easy
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=0A= >=3B cheers
=0A= >=3B _______________________________________________
=0A= >=3B Krita mailing list
=0A= >=3B kimageshop@kde.org
=0A= >=3B https://mail.kde.or= g/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop
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