On F= ri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:

On Wednesday = 22 October 2014 Oct 19:22:03 Sven Langkamp wrote:

> That's sad, although I already feared that it would happen. I assu= me that
> KO also will be getting out of the remaining Calligra too (not that mu= ch
> anyway), right? Paying to you and Dmitry it certainly going to be hard= .

But not impossible, I hope...

> Any estimates for the subscriptions?

Not yet. Right now, the development fund is only about a hundred eur= os a month...

> I think the animation support needs at least three months to fix the > remaining issues and integrate into the main application. The addition= s for
> that project would be another 3-4 months.

Hm... So much? That's going to have to be compressed a lot :-(

Ok, maybe not that much. It depends how much= functionality should make it into the first version.
The biggest= things that come to mind are:
- animation branch needs to be mer= ged (ideally so that we only have one document class and an animation would= just be a Krita image with an animation layer)
- undo needs to b= e fixed
- fix onion skinning
- better interaction with = the timeline
=C2=A0

>
> Another big item is port to Qt 5 which should also happen in 2015. Tha= t
> should take not that much time, but also needs to be scheduled careful= ly.
>

Yes. At the calligra sprint we discussed that, too, and planned to d= o that immediately after the 2.9 release. A straight port first, run all th= e scripts, make sure everything builds, then disable all applications from = compilation, then let the maintainers (if any) re-enable their applications= when they start porting the applications properly. It should lead to a 3.0= in about three months, in my estimation. I'm also guessing it will lea= d to shedding a lot of dead wood in calligra.

So mvc merge would happen between 2.9 and 3.0?

> I think it's important that we go back to shorter release cycles a= s 2.9 and
> not start too many projects at once. Ideally we would be ready to ship= a
> development project every 3-4 months. Currently we have sort of a mess= due
> to mvc and animation running concurrently. A shorter development cycle=
> would bring new features to the users faster.

Yes. Though postponing 2.9 to December was purely because we started= the kickstarter project too late.

> I think we should also try Patreon. Form what I saw that seems to be a= lot
> more interesting for people than custom development funds. Looking at = other
> Patreon stuff it looks like the average is amount per person is about = 10$
> for bigger project and we would maybe need between 1000 and 1300 suppo= rters
> to fund everything, but 600 could get a half the amount already.

I will try to set that up this weekend. I'm still not sure how t= o make it go well, but we cannot afford to let any stone unturned.

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Boudewijn Rempt
http://www.valdyas.org= , http://www.krita.o= rg
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