'Re: R: Friday is the day'

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Subject:    Re: R: Friday is the day
From:       silvio grosso <grossosilvio () yahoo ! it>
Date:       2012-11-27 13:07:02
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Hi Boud,

> Maybe in some countries, the donation will actually be tax-deductible 
despite the lack of charitable status of the foundation in the 
Netherlands.

In Italy, for our kind of Association (promoting open source GIS software), \
all donations were not tax-deductible. In order to have this reduction, for \
our donors, we should have been supposed to follow a very strict \
regularization.  Nevertheless, our own accountant always suggested us not \
to follow this route because of all "complications"  it entailed (plenty of \
paper to produce for me, as a treasurer, and our Secretary).

To sum up, our  donors were *true* believers in the GIS open source \
software: since they did NOT get any tax reduction thanks to their \
donations :-) All in all, this was not a problem for them since these \
amounts were pretty small (usually under 50 euros).

P.s: as explained, the money collected for "bug-fixing" stuff required \
instead an invoice from the developer (with VAT etc)

Best regards,

Silvio Grosso

--- Mar 27/11/12, Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> ha scritto:

Da: Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org>
Oggetto: Re: R: Friday is the day
A: "Krita's developers and users mailing list" <kimageshop@kde.org>
Data: Martedė 27 novembre 2012, 12:49

On Tuesday 27 November 2012 Nov, silvio grosso wrote:
> Hi Boud,
> 
> Just a curiosity: let's suppose someone wants to "donate" some money for \
> bug-fixing stuff on Krita. 
> How does it work?
> 
> I am supposed to receive an invoice for this "donation" from the \
> Foundation or it is not necessary since I am donating the money for a \
> "charitable" goal?

Well, I can always send a receipt, just like you describe below. When the \
foundation is active, I'll create a bank account and a paypal and flattr \
account and make it easy to send money. Maybe in some countries, the \
donation will actually be tax-deductible despite the lack of charitable \
status of the foundation in the Netherlands.

> 
> More precisely, I have been for 2 years the Treasurer of the Gfoss.it \
> Association (http://www.gfoss.it/drupal/). This Italian Association is \
> No-profit. None of us: President, secretary, treasurer etc has never \
> earned any money from our work (we were all volunteers).  Our President, \
> for instance, is a *true* world-wide legend in the open source GIS \
> software (he has created SpatiaLite: http://www.gaia-gis.it/gaia-sins/) \
> :-)

Cool!

> 
> Whenever we received some donations from our associates we simply \
> released a receipt (with NO true "legal" value) In short, this document \
> was NOT at all meant as an invoice and you could NOT use it for reducing \
> your taxes. On the other hand, if someone wanted to donate some money \
> *specifically* for some open source GIS software (e.g. Qgis, PostGIS etc) \
> we "simply" collected the money. Later on, it was up to the developer, as \
> soon as he received from us this money, to send an invoice (with VAT etc) \
> to our donors.

Yes, we could do that still, and the foundation could broker, exactly like \
you describe.

-- 
Boudewijn Rempt
http://www.valdyas.org, http://www.krita.org, http://www.boudewijnrempt.nl
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style="font: inherit;">Hi Boud, &gt; Maybe in some countries, the \
donation will actually be tax-deductible despite the lack of charitable \
status of the foundation in the Netherlands. In Italy, for our kind \
of Association (promoting open source GIS software), all donations were not \
tax-deductible. In order to have this reduction, for our donors, we \
should have been supposed to follow a very strict regularization. \
 Nevertheless, our own accountant always suggested us not to follow this \
route because of all "complications"&nbsp; it entailed (plenty of paper to \
produce for me, as a treasurer, and our Secretary). To sum up, \
our&nbsp; donors were *true* believers in the GIS open source software: \
since they did NOT get any tax reduction thanks to their donations \
:-) All in all, this was not a problem for them since these amounts were \
pretty small (usually under 50 euros). P.s: as explained, the money \
collected for "bug-fixing" stuff required instead an invoice from the \
developer (with VAT etc) Best regards, Silvio \
Grosso --- Mar 27/11/12, Boudewijn Rempt \
&lt;boud@valdyas.org&gt; ha scritto: <blockquote \
style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; \
padding-left: 5px;"> Da: Boudewijn Rempt \
&lt;boud@valdyas.org&gt; Oggetto: Re: R: Friday is the day A: \
"Krita's developers and users mailing list" \
&lt;kimageshop@kde.org&gt; Data: Martedė 27 novembre 2012, \
12:49 <div class="plainMail">On Tuesday 27 November 2012 Nov, silvio \
grosso wrote: &gt; Hi Boud, &gt; &gt; Just a curiosity: let's \
suppose someone wants to "donate" some money for bug-fixing stuff on \
Krita. &gt; &gt; How does it work? &gt; &gt; I am supposed to \
receive an invoice for this "donation" from the Foundation or it is not \
necessary since I am donating the money for a "charitable" \
goal? Well, I can always send a receipt, just like you describe \
below. When the foundation is active, I'll create a bank account and a \
paypal and flattr account and make it easy to send money. Maybe in some \
countries, the donation will actually be tax-deductible despite the lack of \
charitable status of the foundation in the Netherlands. &gt; \
 &gt; More precisely, I have been for 2 years the Treasurer of the \
Gfoss.it Association (<a href="http://www.gfoss.it/drupal/" \
target="_blank">http://www.gfoss.it/drupal/</a>). &gt; This Italian \
Association is No-profit. &gt; None of us: President, secretary, \
treasurer etc has never earned any money from our work (we were all \
volunteers). &gt; Our President, for instance, is a *true* world-wide \
legend in the open source GIS software (he has created SpatiaLite: <a \
href="http://www.gaia-gis.it/gaia-sins/" \
target="_blank">http://www.gaia-gis.it/gaia-sins/</a>) \
:-) Cool! &gt; &gt; Whenever we received some donations \
from our associates we simply released a receipt (with NO true "legal" \
value) &gt; In short, this document was NOT at all meant as an invoice \
and you could NOT use it for reducing your taxes. &gt; On the other \
hand, if someone wanted to donate some money *specifically* for some open \
source GIS software (e.g. Qgis, PostGIS etc) we "simply" collected the \
money. &gt; Later on, it was up to the developer, as soon as he received \
from us this money, to send an invoice (with VAT etc) to our \
donors. Yes, we could do that still, and the foundation could \
broker, exactly like you describe. -- Boudewijn Rempt <a \
href="http://www.valdyas.org" target="_blank">http://www.valdyas.org</a>, \
<a href="http://www.krita.org" target="_blank">http://www.krita.org</a>, <a \
href="http://www.boudewijnrempt.nl" \
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