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Subject:    Re: Behavior on single click with selection tools (Artist input
From:       Geoffry Song <goffrie () gmail ! com>
Date:       2011-12-29 15:50:15
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:09 AM, silvio grosso <grossosilvio@yahoo.it>wrote:

>  Hi Sven,
>
> > What do you think?
>
> In order to being consistent  with Photoshop (which is the standard for
> *professionals*) it would be really useful to have the same options for
> Krita as well.
>
> Since most tutorials on the web (and books) are done with Photshop this
> would allow "new users" (which are very likely to be "Windows users")  to
> start better with Krita.
>
> Since Krita 2.4 beta 5 works on Windows this is even more important :-)
>
> In essence, as with Photoshop:
> - click on the canvas to "draw" your selection;
> - click a second time on your canvas to delete your previous selection;
> - on top of this, when keeping pressed the left button of your mouse
> (*inside* your selection) you should be able to move this very selection
> over the canvas
>
> As suggested by Philippe (for Photoshop):
> - Holding SHIFT should allow you to add something to  your selection;
> - Holding ALT should allow you to delete something from your selection
> (with Gimp you should instead press Ctr to get this second option).
>

For what it's worth, using ALT is probably not a great idea because by
default (at least in GNOME/KDE) alt-drag moves the window.


>
> From a Krita  "developer point" of view I don't know whether these are
> good ideas or not :-)
>
> Silvio Grosso
>
>
>
> --- *Gio 29/12/11, Sven Langkamp <sven.langkamp@gmail.com>* ha scritto:
>
>
> Da: Sven Langkamp <sven.langkamp@gmail.com>
> Oggetto: Behavior on single click with selection tools (Artist input
> needed)
> A: "Krayon (KImageShop)" <kimageshop@kde.org>
> Data: Giovedì 29 dicembre 2011, 13:54
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently wondering how to fix this bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282864 and would like to get some
> suggestions what to do about it.
>
> The problem there is the following: When you have a rectangle or ellipse
> tool activated and only do a single click, Krita detects that and does
> nothing. The bug reports says that it should deselect everything in that
> case like other applications do. As pointed out in the bug report we are
> not sure if that would be good or not.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
>
> Sven
>
> -----Segue allegato-----
>
>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:09 AM, silvio grosso \
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Hi Sven,<br><br>&gt; What do you think?<br><br>In order to being consistent \
with Photoshop (which is the standard for *professionals*) it would be \
really  useful to have the same options for Krita as well.<br><br>Since \
most tutorials on the web (and books) are done with Photshop this would \
allow &quot;new users&quot; (which are very likely to be &quot;Windows \
users&quot;)   to start better with Krita.<br>

<br>Since Krita 2.4 beta 5 works on Windows this is even more important \
:-)<br><br>In essence, as with Photoshop:<br>- click on the canvas to \
&quot;draw&quot; your selection;<br>- click a second time on your canvas to \
delete your previous  selection;<br>- on top of this, when keeping pressed \
the left button of your mouse (*inside* your selection) you should be able \
to move this very selection over the canvas<br><br>As suggested by Philippe \
(for Photoshop):<br>

- Holding SHIFT should allow you to add something to   your selection;<br>- \
Holding ALT should allow you to delete something from your selection (with \
Gimp you should instead press Ctr to get this second option).<br></td> \
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what it&#39;s worth, using ALT is probably not a great idea because  by \
default (at least in GNOME/KDE) alt-drag moves the window.<br>

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<br>From a Krita   &quot;developer point&quot; of view I don&#39;t know \
whether these are good ideas or not :-)<br><br>Silvio \
Grosso<br><br><br><br>--- <b>Gio 29/12/11, Sven Langkamp <i>&lt;<a \
href="mailto:sven.langkamp@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">sven.langkamp@gmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> ha scritto:<br>

<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid \
rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>Da: Sven Langkamp  \
&lt;<a href="mailto:sven.langkamp@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">sven.langkamp@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Oggetto: Behavior on \
single click with selection tools (Artist input needed)<br>A: &quot;Krayon \
(KImageShop)&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:kimageshop@kde.org" \
target="_blank">kimageshop@kde.org</a>&gt;<br>

Data: Giovedì 29 dicembre 2011, 13:54<div \
class="im"><br><br><div>Hi,<br><br>I&#39;m currently wondering how to fix \
this bug: <a rel="nofollow" \
href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282864" \
target="_blank">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282864</a> and would \
like to get some suggestions what to do about it.<br>


<br>The problem there is the following: When you have a rectangle or \
ellipse tool activated and only do a single click, Krita detects that and \
does nothing. The bug reports says that it should deselect everything in \
that case like other applications do. As pointed out in the bug report we \
are not sure if that would be good or not.<br>


<br>What do you think?<br><br><br><br><br>Sven<br>
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