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Subject: Re: Patch: Many composite/blend modes mostly compatible to Adobe
From: Silvio Heinrich <plassy () web ! de>
Date: 2011-01-29 16:59:12
Message-ID: 4D444760.4090103 () web ! de
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On 01/29/2011 05:56 PM, Silvio Heinrich wrote:
> On 01/29/2011 04:30 PM, David REVOY wrote:
>>
>>> @Silvio Heinrich : if gimp really uses just HSV then it is not
>>> really superior.
>> Oh, I really don't know nothing about how and why color modes prefer
>> use HSV or HSL luma , I'm just a digital painter user. The only
>> feedback I can give are with pictures like the previous mail :-)
>> Btw, you are right , my use of 'superior' word needs to be explain :
>> the color mode in Photoshop ( I used it for years too) don't work
>> nicely with yellow/orange tones painting over gray. You obtain only a
>> muddy green/yellowish tones. That's why I called the Gimp one
>> 'superior' ; because if you use it as a painter to recolor a part and
>> like to use yellow or orange ; the Gimp one will be more efficient
>> for this case. That's why I always prefered the way Gimp handle it
>> than Photoshop.
>> Just to defend that the two way are usefull :) and I agree and like
>> if you planed to support more then one color model. Good way ! and
>> thanks for the link.
>>
>>
>> --David
> Hmm... this muddy yellowish tone is actually dark yellow i would say :D.
> I don't want to annoy you but i just did a little speedpainting (just
> a hour or so, nothing fancy) in value (grayscale)
> and then colored it in yellow with HSL (left) and HSV (right).
> I think one can see that the left side preserves the lightness of the
> image much better then the right side.
> This is the reason why the photoshop way is usually preferred.
> I know that many of the really great artists paint in value first (to
> get the contrast between light and dark right at the start) and then
> they add color. Since i used gimp for years this didn't really work
> for me because the HSV coloring changes the lightness too much...
> It's funny that you actually were annoyed by photoshop and went to gimp.
> In contrary i was so annoyed after years of using gimp that i wanted
> to switch to photoshop ^__^ but then i found krita :D
>
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Uff... i'm such a scatterbrain :/
here is the picture:
http://imagebin.org/135035
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On 01/29/2011 05:56 PM, Silvio Heinrich wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite"> @Silvio Heinrich : if gimp really uses
just HSV then it is not really superior.</blockquote>
Oh, I really don't know nothing about how and why color modes
prefer use HSV or HSL luma , I'm just a digital painter user.
The only feedback I can give are with pictures like the previous
mail :-)<br>
Btw, you are right , my use of 'superior' word needs to be
explain : the color mode in Photoshop ( I used it for years too)
don't work nicely with yellow/orange tones painting over gray.
You obtain only a muddy green/yellowish tones. That's why I
called the Gimp one 'superior' ; because if you use it as a
painter to recolor a part and like to use yellow or orange ; the
Gimp one will be more efficient for this case. That's why I
always prefered the way Gimp handle it than Photoshop.<br>
Just to defend that the two way are usefull :) and I agree and
like if you planed to support more then one color model. Good
way ! and thanks for the link.<br>
<br>
<br>
--David<br>
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Hmm... this muddy yellowish tone is actually dark yellow i would
say :D.<br>
I don't want to annoy you but i just did a little speedpainting
(just a hour or so, nothing fancy) in value (grayscale)<br>
and then colored it in yellow with HSL (left) and HSV (right).<br>
I think one can see that the left side preserves the lightness of
the image much better then the right side.<br>
This is the reason why the photoshop way is usually preferred.<br>
I know that many of the really great artists paint in value first
(to get the contrast between light and dark right at the start)
and then they add color. Since i used gimp for years this didn't
really work for me because the HSV coloring changes the lightness
too much...<br>
It's funny that you actually were annoyed by photoshop and went to
gimp.<br>
In contrary i was so annoyed after years of using gimp that i
wanted to switch to photoshop ^__^ but then i found krita :D<br>
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Uff... i'm such a scatterbrain :/<br>
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