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Subject: Re: Whither Krita?
From: Cyrille Berger <cberger () cberger ! net>
Date: 2009-09-16 12:43:41
Message-ID: 200909161443.41345.cberger () cberger ! net
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On Wednesday 16 September 2009, enki wrote:
> Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> > There are some very interesting things about mypaints brush engine. One
> > of them is that MyPaint used to be really stroke based, i.e., it would
> > store strokes, and strokes were intended to be editable at a later stage.
> > It's still possible to change the brush parameters and see the last
> > stroke change accordingly. I have got a version of the mypaint brush
> > engine integrated in a krita paintop, but never got it finished enough to
> > allow painting. The other thing about mypaints brush engine is that it
> > works in 15 bit pre-multiplied rgb.
>
> What makes MyPaint powerful is that all brush options are combined in
> one paintops. So for example, you can create a smudge + airbrush +
> jittering+ pixel pencil preset.
> Most of mypaint's features are available
> in Krita, but scattered between different paintops. I think that Brush
> options should be shared more between paintops. Sensors are a step in
> the good direction, but more paintops need to use them.
That's the goal :)
The "smudge + airbrush" was the idea behind the color source of the "dynamic
brush", the color source is not available in 2.1, but I hope to make it back
in 2.2 (at least for the brush op).
> >> Keyboard shortcuts is something I miss in Krita a lot. I consider it a
> >> big bug when I can't configure shortcuts for Tool Docker. I investigated
> >> the issue a little, but not much...
> >
> > Yeah, that's one of those things that broke during our integration with
> > KOffice. It worked quite well in 1.6, but is broken right now. And
> > investigating the fix takes so much time.
>
> Here shortcut seems to works well, but the tools I need are not in the
> list.
Yes that's a problem, we can't associate Q/KAction to tools since then that
means you can't type a text in a text shape (if you have single letters
associated to tool). So we would need a way to insert the tools in the
shortcuts editor (this probably needs change in KShortcutsDialog).
--
Cyrille Berger
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font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">On Wednesday 16 September 2009, enki wrote:<br> \
> Boudewijn Rempt wrote:<br> > > There are some very interesting things \
about mypaints brush engine. One<br> > > of them is that MyPaint used to be \
really stroke based, i.e., it would<br> > > store strokes, and strokes were \
intended to be editable at a later stage.<br> > > It's still possible to change \
the brush parameters and see the last<br> > > stroke change accordingly. I have \
got a version of the mypaint brush<br> > > engine integrated in a krita \
paintop, but never got it finished enough to<br> > > allow painting. The other \
thing about mypaints brush engine is that it<br> > > works in 15 bit \
pre-multiplied rgb.<br> ><br>
> What makes MyPaint powerful is that all brush options are combined in<br>
> one paintops. So for example, you can create a smudge + airbrush +<br>
> jittering+ pixel pencil preset.<br>
> Most of mypaint's features are available<br>
> in Krita, but scattered between different paintops. I think that Brush<br>
> options should be shared more between paintops. Sensors are a step in<br>
> the good direction, but more paintops need to use them.<br>
That's the goal :)<br>
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margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>The "smudge + airbrush" was the idea behind the color \
source of the "dynamic brush", the color source is not available in 2.1, but I hope \
to make it back in 2.2 (at least for the brush op).<br> <p \
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-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>> >> Keyboard shortcuts is something I miss in \
Krita a lot. I consider it a<br> > >> big bug when I can't configure \
shortcuts for Tool Docker. I investigated<br> > >> the issue a little, but \
not much...<br> > ><br>
> > Yeah, that's one of those things that broke during our integration with<br>
> > KOffice. It worked quite well in 1.6, but is broken right now. And<br>
> > investigating the fix takes so much time.<br>
><br>
> Here shortcut seems to works well, but the tools I need are not in the<br>
> list.<br>
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margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>Yes that's a problem, we can't associate Q/KAction to \
tools since then that means you can't type a text in a text shape (if you have single \
letters associated to tool). So we would need a way to insert the tools in the \
shortcuts editor (this probably needs change in KShortcutsDialog).<br> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>-- \
<br> Cyrille Berger</p></body></html>
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