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Subject: Re: A couple of problems using Krita
From: Sven Langkamp <sven.langkamp () gmail ! com>
Date: 2009-06-09 10:36:39
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM, David <wizzardx@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Boudewijn Rempt<boud@valdyas.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, David wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there.
> >>
> >> Sorry if this is the wrong list, I couldn't find a krita users
> mailinglist.
> >
> > No, this is perfectly fine!
>
> Ah, thanks. I was worried because it is listed as a developers page:
>
> http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/
>
> "krita - for Krita developers "
>
> If it's okay for users to ask questions here too, maybe you can ask
> for the description to be changed?
>
> > This is 1.6, I guess? Because 2.0 is even more annying :-(. There, the
> > scroll wheel scrolls the page, because that's default for all of KOffice.
> > This is definitely something we will want to address, though. But that
> > won't help you _now_, I'm afraid.
>
> I'm using the latest version in Debian Sid. Help/About says "Krita
> 1.6.3 (Using KDE 3.5.10)", which looks a bit strange because I'm using
> KDE 4.2 (also Debian Sid).
That's because your version of Krita is still build with the old kdelibs
which can be installed in parallel to KDE 4.
>
> Is it possible that this (zooming, and towards the mouse pointer)
> could be added as an option somewhere in Krita's settings, so that
> mouse scroll zooms instead of scrolling up and down,?
>
Yes, it just hasn't been done yet. See also
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173743
> >
> > This is more difficult, since in Krita (unlike in Gimp), layers are
> > all of an infinite size, which means that each layer fills the whole
> > image size (and beyond). So you can start painting anywhere on a layer,
> > move the layer and continue painting on a newly exposed area. But that
> > also makes it hard to do "click-through" to transparent areas. I had
> > the same problem when I was doing a collage of KOffice screenshots,
> > I was always moving the wrong layer because I thought I could just click
> > on it.
> >
> > If might be implementable in the move tool, though. I'll think on that.
> >
>
> One way to do it (which I think Gimp does), is when you use the Move
> tool, is find the highest non-transparent pixel in the layers, and
> then select that (and then start moving).
>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM, David <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wizzardx@gmail.com">wizzardx@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On Tue, Jun 9, \
2009 at 12:16 PM, Boudewijn Rempt<<a \
href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>> wrote:<br> > On Tue, 9 Jun \
2009, David wrote:<br> ><br>
>> Hi there.<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry if this is the wrong list, I couldn't find a krita users \
mailinglist.<br> ><br>
> No, this is perfectly fine!<br>
<br>
</div>Ah, thanks. I was worried because it is listed as a developers page:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/" \
target="_blank">http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/</a><br> <br>
"krita - for Krita developers "<br>
<br>
If it's okay for users to ask questions here too, maybe you can ask<br>
for the description to be changed?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> This is 1.6, I guess? Because 2.0 is even more annying :-(. There, the<br>
> scroll wheel scrolls the page, because that's default for all of \
KOffice.<br> > This is definitely something we will want to address, though. But \
that<br> > won't help you _now_, I'm afraid.<br>
<br>
</div>I'm using the latest version in Debian Sid. Help/About says "Krita<br>
1.6.3 (Using KDE 3.5.10)", which looks a bit strange because I'm using<br>
KDE 4.2 (also Debian Sid).</blockquote><div><br>That's because your version of \
Krita is still build with the old kdelibs which can be installed in parallel to KDE \
4.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br>
Is it possible that this (zooming, and towards the mouse pointer)<br>
could be added as an option somewhere in Krita's settings, so that<br>
mouse scroll zooms instead of scrolling up and down,?<br><div \
class="im"></div></blockquote><div><br>Yes, it just hasn't been done yet. See \
also <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173743">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173743</a><br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im"> ><br>
> This is more difficult, since in Krita (unlike in Gimp), layers are<br>
> all of an infinite size, which means that each layer fills the whole<br>
> image size (and beyond). So you can start painting anywhere on a layer,<br>
> move the layer and continue painting on a newly exposed area. But that<br>
> also makes it hard to do "click-through" to transparent areas. I \
had<br> > the same problem when I was doing a collage of KOffice screenshots,<br>
> I was always moving the wrong layer because I thought I could just click<br>
> on it.<br>
><br>
> If might be implementable in the move tool, though. I'll think on that.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>One way to do it (which I think Gimp does), is when you use the Move<br>
tool, is find the highest non-transparent pixel in the layers, and<br>
then select that (and then start moving).<br></blockquote></div><br>
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