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Subject: Re: Krita user community?
From: Matthew Woehlke <mw_triad () users ! sourceforge ! net>
Date: 2008-02-22 20:05:49
Message-ID: fpn9uu$ctc$1 () ger ! gmane ! org
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Cyrille Berger wrote:
> On Friday 22 February 2008, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>> Cyrille Berger wrote:
>>> On Thursday 21 February 2008, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>>>> That brings up another idea; an "adjustment layer" that clones a spot in
>>>> the render pipeline. So, for example, you would have an image made up of
>>>> however many layers, plus two gradient maps of different channels
>>>> blended in some way, like this:
>>>>
>>>> { [grad.map 2] [clone of SPOT] } <blend op>
>>>> { [grad.map 1] }
>>>> --> SPOT <--
>>>> { ... }
>>>>
>>>> (Does that make sense?)
>>> Not at all :/ What do you mean by spot ? (when I see that I think of
>>> color spot in the printing industry, but I guess I am completely wrong).
>> It's just a label, meaning that '[clone of SPOT]' is a copy of the
>> render pipeline at '--> SPOT <--' (or more specifically, a clone of all
>> of '{ ... }').
>
> Ah I see. In 2.0, We have the possibility to clone paint layers (not sure
> aobut group layers which would help for your problem). Personnaly, I am not
> convinced that such things fits in a linear/tree layer stacks, I do think
> that a more "advanced" flowchart-like editor would be more adaptet to
> such "links" in the workflow (unfortunately I haven't been able to make much
> progress on that area :( ).
Well... yeah. The point isn't to clone a *layer*, it's for the layer
stack to become more of a DAG than a simple tree :-). I guess you could
do the same thing with a different way of managing layers, yes. But if
it's under consideration, I'm happy with that. I'm throwing out ideas I
think could be useful, not demanding a feature by next week :-).
Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> On the other hand, this kind of thing goes way
> beyond what artists want
Well, the reason I thought of it was to be able to apply different
effects to a spot in the pipe and then blend them. Actually, this graph
is something I might actually use (assuming there isn't some other way
to do it presently):
invert
/ \
stuff --- more stuff ------ <hue blend> --- result
(...i.e. what I described previously)
Of course, that particular example is really a single-channel invert on
a channel not otherwise in the document's color space (since I probably
want to work in RGB except for this particular effect).
I feel fairly confident that I've done copy-merged in PS documents
before for this reason, however (i.e. because I needed to do something
to a layer, while otherwise preserving the stack). This works of course
but must be re-done when/if changes are made to the underlying layer(s).
--
Matthew
People say I'm going insane. I say, "what do you mean, 'going'?".
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