Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > Computers still aren't really fast enough :-(. Both gegl and krita have > performance problems. Nobody has yet been able to do a nice watercolor > simulation realtime at a resolution of more than 1024x1024, and most only > give 512x512, not even with gpu acceleration or with beowulf clusters. A > complicating issue is that screens are getting bigger, so we need to > calculate waymore display pixels. That is simply not true. It all comes down to implementation. Even if an apps's brushes are dead slow (which probably means the implementation approach should be re-visited anyway): Who ever said you need to render a brush at the highest resolution while user is stroking? Who ever said you even need to render it at the resolution required for the current view while the user is stroking? If you have dynamic level of detail, you can just render the brush at the best resolution possible for the machine spec & zoom level at hand while the user is stroking. Once the user has released the pen, you render the currently required detail level. In the background you can start rendering the document's detail level (which might again be higher than the required detail level for the current view). Do all this multi-threaded, and I there's you can get very high quality brushes with real time responsiveness on today's boxes. I mean seriously: look at the level of detail today's games archive at 60+ FPS. Imagine compressing this detail into a brush stroke. Even the offline 3D high-end renderes we use in feature film VFX can render fully anti-aliased images at SD res, of several 100k micropolygons will a single lightsource and a plastic shader at full antialiasing at 3-4 fps on today's boxes. With Krita we are talking 2D. So there's a all kinds of cheats possible. You could e.g. implement brushes on the GPU, render them into textures, then use high-quality downsampling to get the required quality b4 rendering them into the image. One of the (still) most expensive real time compositing systems, Flame, uses OpenGl to render almost everything (including final images), using this trick). If the approach is good enough for a 250k Euro BMW commercial, it sure is good enough for Krita. ;) Cheers, Moritz _______________________________________________ kimageshop mailing list kimageshop@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop