--===============0983047177== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2851853.SJ9GspVTyy"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart2851853.SJ9GspVTyy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 12 October 2006 15:43, Sander Koning wrote: > Cyrille Berger wrote on 2006-10-12 15:23 +0200 regarding Re: rename=20 brightness/contrast filter: > > > If you really want the filter to be obvious to everyone, more radical > > > steps are needed, perhaps even making it visible somewhere outside the > > > Filters menu. The Filters menu is a good place to store effects like > > > this - at least for the ones acquainted with graphics processing and > > > painter applications, like you and me. But it may not be the place > > > where everyone looks for them. From Cyrille's post, I read that too > > > many people can't find this feature and I don't think that simply > > > renaming it will help them find it all of a sudden. > > > > actually too many people are finding it because they think > > brightness/contrast is an other filter, so they don't bother to look at > > it to do what they want, as they are looking for the "curve" keyword. > > Hence my propostion. > > Hmmmz, okay. Just for my curiosity: what do people expect when they read > "brightness/contrast" then? Only being able to change them for the entire > image at once, with a slider? One of the things that may throw off photoshop users is the place of the=20 adjust submenu: photoshop places it in image (although the things work on=20 single layers, as far as I can tell). I cannot find anything in the Gimp=20 these days. As for naming, I don't care much. Photoshop 5.5 has: Levels: for the thingy with the sliders, which we don't have. Curves: a combination of our color adjustment and brightness/contrast dialog ( I think -- select rgb and you get brightness/contrast. Color Balance: three sliders going from cyan to red, magenta to green, yell= ow=20 to blue. Brightness/contrast: with two sliders The difficulty is that our brightness/contrast and our color adjustment are= =20 both Curves, but I think that most problems will be solved if we implement= =20 the levels thing and put the word "curve" in the menu options for our two=20 curve dialogs. > > For example (there are a few more): > - Filter > Blur > Pixelize became Filter > Artistic > Pixelize > - Filter > Decor > Round Corners became Filter > Map > Round Corners > - Filter > Other > Bumpmap became Filter > Map > Bumpmap Yes, I did a bit of reorganizing there now and then. Filter menus grow pret= ty=20 big; that's a fact of life all users of graphics apps should be reconciled= =20 with. It may be an option, at some point in time, to put the "adjust" filters aga= in=20 in their own toplevel menu. =2D-=20 Boudewijn Rempt=20 http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi --nextPart2851853.SJ9GspVTyy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFLkrcdaCcgCmN5d8RAiuyAKDJ7BOFHYjAX7D7lJQvlo5YEFkRNwCgktMV uv8/6dIEuFsHFOd4HCBxFBM= =zyRw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2851853.SJ9GspVTyy-- --===============0983047177== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ kimageshop mailing list kimageshop@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kimageshop --===============0983047177==--