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Subject: Fwd: Re: KDE Control Center
From: Thomas Diehl <thd () kde ! org>
Date: 2001-02-21 12:53:08
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Hi,
Some news from Torsten Rahn ...
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Subject: Re: KDE Control Center
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:17:55 +0100
From: "Jendrik Weihmann" <weihmann@surfeu.de>
To: <kde-core-devel@kde.org>
Cc: <kde-devel@kde.org>
Note: I'm currently on holidays and only have limited e-mail-access, so if I
don't reply to certain threads then this doesn't mean that I agree with
those mails
Thomas Diehl wrote:
> I just wonder who would like to jump through all these hoops just to
preserve a shadow.
I just wonder who would like to jump through all these hoops just to
preserve a translation.
> My suggestion is we should write down the translations into one file...
> and give it to kde-look team to take care of the rest.
> They can make images for all languages, and also consider design changes
> wich may occure in some languages (Text too long, non latin etc.)
While this solution isn't really satisfying, it is currently the only viable
soultion I see.
> What about distributing the font with KDE?
I think this font is already being distributed with XFree (The name is
palladino IIRC). The Problem is that it wouldn't be AA'd on most X-Servers,
it's no UniCode-font, It doesn't have a shadow and the results aren't really
predictable.
> Well.. you can use PHP to generate some graphics, no?
I don't think that it is that easy.
> Either way, generating a PNG
>from a script (if not PHP, maybe perl?) would be IMO not such a horrible
thing to do.
How do you create antialiased versions of the font on all X-Servers? What do
you do in case that the language isn't supported by the font? How do you
create the shadow decently? Is this all worth the time just to save a few
KB's for half a dozen jpg's being stored in the kde-i18n-files?
>> Worse, I suspect the font to be a TrueType font and afaik only XFree
>> supports
Well it's a free Postscript-font iirc.
So in summary there is currently no better way than to create images for
every language in KDE 2.2 right now. If anyone actually creates a good
solution which provides AA, shadows and properly displayed fonts and good
layout in all supported languages without using images then I'd happily use
that one of course.
Greetings,
Tackat
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KDE translation: http://i18n.kde.org/
Deutsche KDE-Uebersetzung: http://i18n.kde.org/de/
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Note: I'm currently on holidays and only have
limited e-mail-access, so if I don't reply to certain threads then this doesn't
mean that I agree with those mails</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thomas Diehl wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> <FONT size=3>I just wonder who would like to
jump through all these hoops just to<BR>preserve a shadow. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I just wonder who would like to jump through all these
hoops just to<BR>preserve a translation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> My suggestion is we should write down the translations into one
file...<BR>> and give it to kde-look team to take care of the rest.<BR>>
They can make images for all languages, and also consider design changes<BR>>
wich may occure in some languages (Text too long, non latin etc.)<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>While this solution isn't really satisfying, it is
currently the only viable soultion I see.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> What about distributing the font with KDE?<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think this font is already being distributed with
XFree (The name is palladino IIRC). The Problem is that it wouldn't be AA'd on
most X-Servers, it's no UniCode-font, It doesn't have a shadow and the results
aren't really predictable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> <FONT size=3>Well.. you can use PHP to
generate some graphics, no?<BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT size=3>I don't think that it is that
easy.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT size=3>> Either way, generating a
PNG<BR>from a script (if not PHP, maybe perl?) would be IMO not such a
horrible<BR>thing to do.<BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How do you create antialiased versions of the font
on all X-Servers? What do you do in case that the language isn't supported by
the font? How do you create the shadow decently? Is this all worth the time just
to save a few KB's for half a dozen jpg's being stored in the
kde-i18n-files?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>><FONT size=3>> Worse, I suspect the font to
be a TrueType font and afaik only XFree supports<BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT size=3>Well it's a free Postscript-font
iirc.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>So in summary there is currently no better way than to
create images for every language in KDE 2.2 right now. If anyone actually
creates a good solution which provides AA, shadows and properly displayed
fonts and good layout in all supported languages without using images then
I'd happily use that one of course. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Greetings,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Tackat</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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