El dimecres, 18 d=E2=80=99octubre de 2023, a les 22:17:01 (CEST), Yaron Sha=
hrabani va=20
escriure:
> I bet there is :)
> The new plural form will require some string modifications in addition to
> the header.
>=20
> The current formula is as follows:
> [1 - 1] %d house
> [2 - !1] %d houses
>=20
> The new formula is a bit more complex:
> [1 - 1] %d house
> [2 - 2] %d/two houses
> [3 - X%10 =3D=3D 0 when X is larger than 10] %d house
> [4 - !1/!2] %d houses (matches the second form in the current formula)
>=20
> So one option would be just breaking all the plural strings,=20

Not breaking, but marking them as fuzzy, yes, that's what the script does.

Cheers,
  Albert

> the second
> would be copying the 2nd form to the 3rd and 4th (won't break the string
> but I'll need to fix it manually).
> I can try and think of a way to handle this completely automatically but I
> don't think it's worth the trouble.
>=20
> So merely changing the form is not enough.
> Thanks :)
> Yaron Shahrabani
>=20
> <DevOps - Hebrew translator>
>=20
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:08=E2=80=AFPM Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org=
> wrote:
> > El dissabte, 14 d=E2=80=99octubre de 2023, a les 22:37:21 (CEST), Yaron=
 Shahrabani
> > va
> >=20
> > escriure:
> > > I'm really hoping we can find a way to pull this off, it'll require
> > > human
> > > resources beyond our reach.
> > >=20
> > > I can try and think about a way to do this automatically but I'm afra=
id
> >=20
> > it
> >=20
> > > won't be perfect.
> >=20
> > Do what automatically?
> >=20
> > Change the plural definition for all files?
> >=20
> > We have a script to do that.
> >=20
> > Cheers,
> >=20
> >   Albert
> >  =20
> > > Are there any examples of other languages that switched plural forms =
in
> >=20
> > KDE
> >=20
> > > along their history?
> > >=20
> > > Thanks.
> > > Yaron Shahrabani
> > >=20
> > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator>
> > >=20
> > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 10:44=E2=80=AFAM Johnny Jazeix <jazeix@gmail.=
com> wrote:
> > > > Le mar. 10 oct. 2023 =C3=A0 09:38, Yaron Shahrabani <sh.yaron@gmail=
=2Ecom> a
> > > >=20
> > > > =C3=A9crit :
> > > > > So what about my first question, it only applies to new submissio=
ns?
> > > >=20
> > > > Hi,
> > > > It is for all the files or none. We cannot change the plural forms =
for
> > > > only some files.
> > > >=20
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Johnny
> > > >=20
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2023, 01:35 Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrot=
e:
> > > > >> El divendres, 6 d=E2=80=99octubre de 2023, a les 22:33:21 (CEST)=
, Yaron
> > > >=20
> > > > Shahrabani va
> > > >=20
> > > > >> escriure:
> > > > >> > Hey, if it's only relevant for new submissions that's fine,
> >=20
> > applying
> >=20
> > > > that
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > to all current files will be very cumbersome.
> > > > >> > Is there a way to accept both?
> > > > >>=20
> > > > >> All KDE files for a given language must have the same plural
> > > > >> definition.
> > > > >>=20
> > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > >>=20
> > > > >>   Albert
> > > > >>  =20
> > > > >> > Yaron Shahrabani
> > > > >> >=20
> > > > >> > <DevOps - Hebrew translator>
> > > > >> >=20
> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:17=E2=80=AFPM Albert Astals Cid <aac=
id@kde.org>
> > > >=20
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > El dijous, 5 d=E2=80=99octubre de 2023, a les 20:27:44 (CEST=
), Yaron
> > > >=20
> > > > Shahrabani va
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > escriure:
> > > > >> > > > Over the last couple of days I ran into a problem where the
> > > >=20
> > > > gettext
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > files
> > > > >> > > > I've submitted caused all sorts of issues with Scripty.
> > > > >> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > KDE is still using the old plural form for Hebrew (2 cases=
):
> > > > >> > > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=3D2; plural=3Dn !=3D 1;\n"
> > > > >> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > Several years ago this formula was changed to reflect some
> >=20
> > rare
> >=20
> > > > cases in
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > Hebrew.
> > > > >> > > > The new official formula is:
> > > > >> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=3D4; plural=3D(n =3D=3D 1) ? 0 : (=
(n =3D=3D 2) ?
> >=20
> > 1 :
> > > > ((n >
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > 10
> > > > >> > > > && n % 10 =3D=3D 0) ? 2 : 3));\n"
> >=20
> > > > >> > > > This is documented here:
> > http://www.unicode.org/cldr/cldr-aux/charts/22/supplemental/language_pl=
ura
> >=20
> > > > >> > > l_>
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > > > rules.html
> > > > >> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > I've been using this formula for several years now.
> > > > >> > > > Some other projects implementing it:
> > > > >> > > > Weblate, Transifex, Crowding, Poedit and many others.
> > > > >> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > Since the actual cases for using this formula are rare (ti=
me
> > > >=20
> > > > related
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > terms
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > > > - hours, days, months, years, times) it's not always
> >=20
> > necessary to
> >=20
> > > > use it
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > so
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > > > supporting the older formula in addition to the new one is
> > > >=20
> > > > definitely a
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > good option for now.
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > > We can change to the new formula, but that means invalidating
> >=20
> > all
> >=20
> > > > plurals
> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > that
> > > > >> > > use the nplurals=3D2 formula, is that ok for you?
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > > >> > >=20
> > > > >> > >   Albert
> > > > >> > >  =20
> > > > >> > > > Thank you,
> > > > >> > > > Yaron Shahrabani
> > > > >> > > >=20
> > > > >> > > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator>