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Subject: Re: Hebrew plural forms
From: Yaron Shahrabani <sh.yaron () gmail ! com>
Date: 2023-10-10 7:37:51
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So what about my first question, it only applies to new submissions?
On Sat, Oct 7, 2023, 01:35 Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> El divendres, 6 d'octubre de 2023, a les 22:33:21 (CEST), Yaron Shahrabani
> va
> escriure:
> > Hey, if it's only relevant for new submissions that's fine, applying that
> > to all current files will be very cumbersome.
> > Is there a way to accept both?
>
> All KDE files for a given language must have the same plural definition.
>
> Cheers,
> Albert
>
> > Yaron Shahrabani
> >
> > <DevOps - Hebrew translator>
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:17 PM Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> > > El dijous, 5 d'octubre de 2023, a les 20:27:44 (CEST), Yaron
> Shahrabani va
> > >
> > > escriure:
> > > > Over the last couple of days I ran into a problem where the gettext
> > > > files
> > > > I've submitted caused all sorts of issues with Scripty.
> > > >
> > > > KDE is still using the old plural form for Hebrew (2 cases):
> > > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=n != 1;\n"
> > > >
> > > > Several years ago this formula was changed to reflect some rare
> cases in
> > > > Hebrew.
> > > > The new official formula is:
> > > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=4; plural=(n == 1) ? 0 : ((n == 2) ? 1 : ((n
> >
> > > > 10
> > > > && n % 10 == 0) ? 2 : 3));\n"
> > >
> > > > This is documented here:
> > >
> http://www.unicode.org/cldr/cldr-aux/charts/22/supplemental/language_plura
> > > l_>
> > > > rules.html
> > > >
> > > > I've been using this formula for several years now.
> > > > Some other projects implementing it:
> > > > Weblate, Transifex, Crowding, Poedit and many others.
> > > >
> > > > Since the actual cases for using this formula are rare (time related
> > >
> > > terms
> > >
> > > > - hours, days, months, years, times) it's not always necessary to
> use it
> > >
> > > so
> > >
> > > > supporting the older formula in addition to the new one is
> definitely a
> > > > good option for now.
> > >
> > > We can change to the new formula, but that means invalidating all
> plurals
> > > that
> > > use the nplurals=2 formula, is that ok for you?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Albert
> > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Yaron Shahrabani
> > > >
> > > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir="auto">So what about my first question, it only applies to new \
submissions?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On \
Sat, Oct 7, 2023, 01:35 Albert Astals Cid <<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">El divendres, 6 d'octubre de 2023, a les 22:33:21 (CEST), \
Yaron Shahrabani va <br> escriure:<br>
> Hey, if it's only relevant for new submissions that's fine, applying \
that<br> > to all current files will be very cumbersome.<br>
> Is there a way to accept both?<br>
<br>
All KDE files for a given language must have the same plural definition.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Albert<br>
<br>
> Yaron Shahrabani<br>
> <br>
> <DevOps - Hebrew translator><br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:17 PM Albert Astals Cid <<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">aacid@kde.org</a>> \
wrote:<br> > > El dijous, 5 d'octubre de 2023, a les 20:27:44 (CEST), Yaron \
Shahrabani va<br> > > <br>
> > escriure:<br>
> > > Over the last couple of days I ran into a problem where the \
gettext<br> > > > files<br>
> > > I've submitted caused all sorts of issues with Scripty.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > KDE is still using the old plural form for Hebrew (2 cases):<br>
> > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=n != 1;\n"<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Several years ago this formula was changed to reflect some rare cases \
in<br> > > > Hebrew.<br>
> > > The new official formula is:<br>
> > > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=4; plural=(n == 1) ? 0 : ((n == 2) ? 1 : \
((n ><br> > > > 10<br>
> > > && n % 10 == 0) ? 2 : 3));\n"<br>
> > <br>
> > > This is documented here:<br>
> > <a href="http://www.unicode.org/cldr/cldr-aux/charts/22/supplemental/language_plura" \
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://www.unicode.org/cldr/cldr-aux/charts/22/supplemental/language_plura</a><br>
> > l_> <br>
> > > rules.html<br>
> > > <br>
> > > I've been using this formula for several years now.<br>
> > > Some other projects implementing it:<br>
> > > Weblate, Transifex, Crowding, Poedit and many others.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Since the actual cases for using this formula are rare (time \
related<br> > > <br>
> > terms<br>
> > <br>
> > > - hours, days, months, years, times) it's not always necessary to \
use it<br> > > <br>
> > so<br>
> > <br>
> > > supporting the older formula in addition to the new one is definitely \
a<br> > > > good option for now.<br>
> > <br>
> > We can change to the new formula, but that means invalidating all \
plurals<br> > > that<br>
> > use the nplurals=2 formula, is that ok for you?<br>
> > <br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > <br>
> > Albert<br>
> > <br>
> > > Thank you,<br>
> > > Yaron Shahrabani<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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