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Subject: D24181: Changing "Paste Without Formatting" in Notes applet to "Paste"
From: Vladimir Yerilov <noreply () phabricator ! kde ! org>
Date: 2019-09-26 3:03:11
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yerilov added a comment.
@huftis
Having thought about this I guess I have my attitude towards the default `Ctlr+V` \
'Paste' action: it should be without formatting. I can explain why. Notes applet is \
not an application. The reason it exists is to contain quick notes and tasks, memos, \
etc. Such text objects may come from various sources with heavy formatting, but Notes \
//is not// a web page or document processor, it shouldn't default to display \
potentially //hard to read// text (given the size of the applet) as a result of \
`Ctrl+C - Ctrl+V` pasting. Being not an application means it can behave differently \
in some aspects, that's why I find the comparison between this applet and other \
applications //irrelevant//. But not only that. Open Kate pls and try to find "Paste \
with Formatting" there. Try to paste some text from this page there. You'll see \
there's no formatting. But Kate is an application, quite powerful one. And //no// \
formatting. From the other side, having an way to paste formatted text is quite a \
neat option, that's why I guess it's better to have it untouched (I mean no reason to \
remove it).
> least surprise.
Well, try to Ctrl+V your own comment to Notes on 5.16.5 (it defaults to Paste with \
formatting here). What I see immediately is an ugly white-on-yellow text background \
which comes w/o no doubt from this page formatting. This is actual surprise for \
anyone who wants to make memos.
REPOSITORY
R114 Plasma Addons
BRANCH
notes-applet-tuning (branched from master)
REVISION DETAIL
https://phabricator.kde.org/D24181
To: yerilov, ngraham
Cc: davidedmundson, huftis, broulik, yurchor, ltoscano, aacid, #localization, \
yerilov, ngraham, plasma-devel, LeGast00n, The-Feren-OS-Dev, jraleigh, fbampaloukas, \
GB_2, ragreen, ZrenBot, alexeymin, himcesjf, lesliezhai, ali-mohamed, jensreuterberg, \
abetts, sebas, apol, mart
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Having thought about this I guess I have my attitude towards the default <tt \
style="background: #ebebeb; font-size: 13px;">Ctlr+V</tt> 'Paste' action: \
it should be without formatting. I can explain why. Notes applet is not an \
application. The reason it exists is to contain quick notes and tasks, memos, etc. \
Such text objects may come from various sources with heavy formatting, but Notes \
<em>is not</em> a web page or document processor, it shouldn't default to \
display potentially <em>hard to read</em> text (given the size of the applet) as a \
result of <tt style="background: #ebebeb; font-size: 13px;">Ctrl+C - Ctrl+V</tt> \
pasting. Being not an application means it can behave differently in some aspects, \
that's why I find the comparison between this applet and other applications \
<em>irrelevant</em>.<br /> But not only that. Open Kate pls and try to find \
"Paste with Formatting" there. Try to paste some text from this page there. \
You'll see there's no formatting. But Kate is an application, quite \
powerful one. And <em>no</em> formatting.<br /> From the other side, having an way to \
paste formatted text is quite a neat option, that's why I guess it's better \
to have it untouched (I mean no reason to remove it).</p>
<blockquote style="border-left: 3px solid #a7b5bf; color: #464c5c; font-style: \
italic; margin: 4px 0 12px 0; padding: 4px 12px; background-color: #f8f9fc;"><p>least \
surprise.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, try to Ctrl+V your own comment to Notes on 5.16.5 (it defaults to Paste with \
formatting here). What I see immediately is an ugly white-on-yellow text background \
which comes w/o no doubt from this page formatting. This is actual surprise for \
anyone who wants to make memos.</p></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R114 Plasma Addons</div></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>BRANCH</strong><div><div>notes-applet-tuning (branched from \
master)</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D24181">https://phabricator.kde.org/D24181</a></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>To: </strong>yerilov, ngraham<br /><strong>Cc: \
</strong>davidedmundson, huftis, broulik, yurchor, ltoscano, aacid, Localization, \
yerilov, ngraham, plasma-devel, LeGast00n, The-Feren-OS-Dev, jraleigh, fbampaloukas, \
GB_2, ragreen, ZrenBot, alexeymin, himcesjf, lesliezhai, ali-mohamed, jensreuterberg, \
abetts, sebas, apol, mart<br /></div>
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