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List:       kde-i18n-doc
Subject:    Re: Use Pontoon for l10n
From:       Safa Alfulaij <safa1996alfulaij () gmail ! com>
Date:       2019-04-02 22:02:02
Message-ID: CAFODQs45axsz7g2L0TSw_xsJztWS5NTR_jutS-Ji43pRz_LDJg () mail ! gmail ! com
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And by only one language using platforms like Crowdin, we get CI issues
because of "syncing". (Refer "CI system disruption" in kde-devel mail-list)

I wonder what may happen if all of the languages started doing that...

(To explain, this is why I don't prefer such platforms with large softwares
like KDE. We have real evidences, nothing from my own imagination.)

Regards,
Safa

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 12:14 AM Boyuan Yang <byang@debian.org wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Just a side note: we the Simplified Chinese team have been using Crowdin to
> manage KDE translations for over a year:
> 
> https://crowdin.com/project/kdeorg
> 
> We received sponsorship from crowdin to be able to use enterprise-level
> functions with no fee. There's some automatic bridge scripts to sync the
> crowdin project with SVN repo.
> 
> I wrote a blog post to describe this effort (in Chinese though):
> 
> 
> https://www.ikde.org/news/kde-%E7%AE%80%E4%BD%93%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%BF%BB%E8%AF%91 \
> %E5%90%AF%E7%94%A8-crowdin-%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8D%8F%E4%BD%9C%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0/ 
> It's just FYI and hope that I have provided another choice for you all.
> 
> Thanks,
> Boyuan Yang
> 
> 在 2019-04-02二的 22:58 +0200,Josep Ma. Ferrer写道:
> > 
> > Missatge de Subin <subins2000@gmail.com> del dia dt., 2 d'abr. 2019 a
> les
> > 19:59:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > Thanks for all the inputs. I understand that migrating all the
> projects to
> > > the tools I mentioned before won't work out. That leaves with Damned
> Lies.
> > > And it's working out well for GNOME. How about using Damned Lies ?
> > > Some more additions I can think of in Damned Lies :
> > > * Add a button in Damned Lies besides the POT file download button to
> view
> > > it in an online POT file viewer
> > > * Add a simple web UI to review translations
> > > Is there anything lacking in Damned Lies ?
> > > 
> > 
> > Does Damned Lies support massive changes in the repositories (multiple
> files
> > at once) in an easy way? Or changes must be done file by file (reserve,
> > edit, proofreading, commit, ... for each file)? Can we skip some of the
> > workflow steps [1] in specified uses?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Josep Ma. Ferrer
> > 
> > [1] https://l10n.gnome.org/static/img/workflow-translation.png
> > > [...]
> 


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<div dir="auto">And by only one language using platforms like Crowdin, we get CI \
issues because of "syncing". (Refer "CI system disruption" in kde-devel \
mail-list)<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I wonder what may happen if all \
of the languages started doing that...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">(To explain, this is why I don&#39;t prefer such platforms with large \
softwares like KDE. We have real evidences, nothing from my own \
imagination.)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div \
dir="auto">Safa</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 3, \
2019, 12:14 AM Boyuan Yang &lt;<a href="mailto:byang@debian.org">byang@debian.org</a> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi everyone,<br> <br>
Just a side note: we the Simplified Chinese team have been using Crowdin to<br>
manage KDE translations for over a year:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://crowdin.com/project/kdeorg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://crowdin.com/project/kdeorg</a><br> <br>
We received sponsorship from crowdin to be able to use enterprise-level<br>
functions with no fee. There&#39;s some automatic bridge scripts to sync the<br>
crowdin project with SVN repo.<br>
<br>
I wrote a blog post to describe this effort (in Chinese though):<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.ikde.org/news/kde-%E7%AE%80%E4%BD%93%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7%BF%BB%E \
8%AF%91%E5%90%AF%E7%94%A8-crowdin-%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8D%8F%E4%BD%9C%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0/" \
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://www.ikde.org/news/kde-%E7%AE%80%E4%BD%93%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E7% \
BF%BB%E8%AF%91%E5%90%AF%E7%94%A8-crowdin-%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8D%8F%E4%BD%9C%E5%B9%B3%E5%8F%B0/</a><br>
 <br>
It&#39;s just FYI and hope that I have provided another choice for you all.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Boyuan Yang<br>
<br>
在 2019-04-02二的 22:58 +0200,Josep Ma. Ferrer写道:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Missatge de Subin &lt;<a href="mailto:subins2000@gmail.com" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">subins2000@gmail.com</a>&gt; del dia dt., 2 d'abr. 2019 a les<br> \
&gt; 19:59:<br> &gt; &gt; Hi everyone,<br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks for all the inputs. I understand that migrating all the projects \
to<br> &gt; &gt; the tools I mentioned before won&#39;t work out. That leaves with \
Damned Lies.<br> &gt; &gt; And it&#39;s working out well for GNOME. How about using \
Damned Lies ?<br> &gt; &gt; Some more additions I can think of in Damned Lies :<br>
&gt; &gt; * Add a button in Damned Lies besides the POT file download button to \
view<br> &gt; &gt; it in an online POT file viewer<br>
&gt; &gt; * Add a simple web UI to review translations<br>
&gt; &gt; Is there anything lacking in Damned Lies ?<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Does Damned Lies support massive changes in the repositories (multiple files<br>
&gt; at once) in an easy way? Or changes must be done file by file (reserve,<br>
&gt; edit, proofreading, commit, ... for each file)? Can we skip some of the<br>
&gt; workflow steps [1] in specified uses?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks in advance,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Josep Ma. Ferrer<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; [1] <a href="https://l10n.gnome.org/static/img/workflow-translation.png" \
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://l10n.gnome.org/static/img/workflow-translation.png</a><br> \
&gt; &gt; [...]<br> </blockquote></div>



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