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Subject:    Re: Review Request 127730: Add commonly used entities for keys to en/user.entities
From:       Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzer () kde ! org>
Date:       2016-05-09 18:58:46
Message-ID: 20160509185846.11022.41893 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On May 8, 2016, 7:27 p.m., Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
> > src/customization/en/user.entities, lines 11-19
> > <https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127730/diff/3/?file=464404#file464404line11>
> > 
> > On ANSI and US keyboards, Backspace and Enter is actually printed on the key, so \
> > keycap might be the better choice here?
> 
> Burkhard Lück wrote:
> Afaik US keyboards have the text Backspace + arrow left and Enter + arrow down \
> left, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unicomp_keyboard.jpg On all german \
> keyboards I've seen the Backspace key has no text only an arrow left and the Enter \
> key only an arrow down left. Therefore from my pov keysym markup is is appropriate \
> here.

Albeit being German, I did not take German keyboards into account. :)
From the US-layout perspective however, the situation is that most keyboards have \
both name and sign and some keyboards have the words only. An example for the latter \
would be my laptop keyboard, which comes with a 2 years old laptop. [...]
Now, after searching on google a bit more, I also found some US layout keyboards with \
the sign only. So none of keycap or keysym is exactly right for all keyboards. So \
I'll leave this change it to your judgement.


- Frederik


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On May 6, 2016, 7:11 a.m., Burkhard Lück wrote:
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> (Updated May 6, 2016, 7:11 a.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Documentation and Localization and Translation (l10n).
> 
> 
> Repository: kdoctools
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> <keycap>Del</keycap> 25 x in l10n-kf5/documentation
> <keycap>Ins</keycap> 13 x in l10n-kf5/documentation
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
> src/customization/en/user.entities de68e30 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127730/diff/
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> Testing
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> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Burkhard Lück
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On May 8th, 2016, 7:27 p.m. UTC, <b>Frederik \
Schwarzer</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
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font-size: 9pt; padding: 4px 8px; text-align: left;">  <a \
href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127730/diff/3/?file=464404#file464404line11" \
style="color: black; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: \
underline;">src/customization/en/user.entities</a>  <span style="font-weight: \
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    <th bgcolor="#e9eaa8" style="border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2">11</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#fdfebc" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY Backspace<span \
class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;key<span class="hl">cap</span>&gt;Backspace&lt;/key<span \
class="hl">cap</span>&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>  <th bgcolor="#e9eaa8" \
style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2">11</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#fdfebc" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY Backspace<span \
class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;key<span class="hl">sym</span>&gt;Backspace&lt;/key<span \
class="hl">sym</span>&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>  </tr>

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    <th bgcolor="#f0f0f0" style="border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2">12</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY cdrom<span \
class="tb">	</span>&#39;&lt;hardware&gt;CD-ROM \
drive&lt;/hardware&gt;&#39;&gt;</pre></td>  <th bgcolor="#f0f0f0" style="border-left: \
1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" align="right"><font \
size="2">12</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="50%"><pre style="font-size: \
8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY cdrom<span \
class="tb">	</span>&#39;&lt;hardware&gt;CD-ROM \
drive&lt;/hardware&gt;&#39;&gt;</pre></td>  </tr>

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    <th bgcolor="#f0f0f0" style="border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2">13</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY Ctrl<span \
class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;keycap&gt;Ctrl&lt;/keycap&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>  <th \
bgcolor="#f0f0f0" style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid \
#C0C0C0;" align="right"><font size="2">13</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#ffffff" \
width="50%"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY \
Ctrl<span class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;keycap&gt;Ctrl&lt;/keycap&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>
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    <th bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2"></font></th>  <td bgcolor="#c5ffc4" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; "></pre></td>  <th \
bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid \
#C0C0C0;" align="right"><font size="2">14</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#c5ffc4" \
width="50%"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY \
Del<span class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;keycap&gt;Del&lt;/keycap&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>
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    <th bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2"></font></th>  <td bgcolor="#c5ffc4" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; "></pre></td>  <th \
bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid \
#C0C0C0;" align="right"><font size="2">15</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#c5ffc4" \
width="50%"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY \
Down<span class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;keysym&gt;Down&lt;/keysym&gt;&quot;&gt; \
&lt;!-- Cursor key--&gt;</pre></td>  </tr>

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align="right"><font size="2">14</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY dpi<span \
class="tb">	</span>&#39;&lt;acronym&gt;dpi&lt;/acronym&gt;&#39;&gt;</pre></td>  <th \
bgcolor="#f0f0f0" style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid \
#C0C0C0;" align="right"><font size="2">16</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#ffffff" \
width="50%"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY \
dpi<span class="tb">	</span>&#39;&lt;acronym&gt;dpi&lt;/acronym&gt;&#39;&gt;</pre></td>
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style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY eg     \
&quot;&lt;abbrev&gt;e.g.&lt;/abbrev&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>  <th bgcolor="#f0f0f0" \
style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2">17</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY eg     \
&quot;&lt;abbrev&gt;e.g.&lt;/abbrev&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>  </tr>

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style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY En<span \
class="hl">ter</span><span class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;keycap&gt;En<span \
class="hl">ter</span>&lt;/keycap&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>  <th bgcolor="#e9eaa8" \
style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
align="right"><font size="2">18</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#fdfebc" width="50%"><pre \
style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY En<span \
class="hl">d</span><span class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;keycap&gt;En<span \
class="hl">d</span>&lt;/keycap&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>  </tr>

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    <th bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-right: 1px solid #C0C0C0;" \
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style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; "></pre></td>  <th \
bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid \
#C0C0C0;" align="right"><font size="2">19</font></th>  <td bgcolor="#c5ffc4" \
width="50%"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">&lt;!ENTITY \
Enter<span class="tb">	</span>&quot;&lt;keysym&gt;Enter&lt;/keysym&gt;&quot;&gt;</pre></td>
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  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">On \
ANSI and US keyboards, Backspace and Enter is actually printed on the key, so keycap \
might be the better choice here?</p></pre>  </blockquote>



 <p>On May 8th, 2016, 7:43 p.m. UTC, <b>Burkhard Lück</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Afaik US keyboards have \
the text Backspace + arrow left and Enter + arrow down left, see \
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unicomp_keyboard.jpg On all german keyboards \
I&#39;ve seen the Backspace key has no text only an arrow left and the Enter key only \
an arrow down left. Therefore from my pov keysym markup is is appropriate here.</pre>
 </blockquote>







</blockquote>
<pre style="margin-left: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">Albeit being German, I did not take German keyboards into account. :) From \
the US-layout perspective however, the situation is that most keyboards have both \
name and sign and some keyboards have the words only. An example for the latter would \
be my laptop keyboard, which comes with a 2 years old laptop. [...]
Now, after searching on google a bit more, I also found some US layout keyboards with \
the sign only. So none of keycap or keysym is exactly right for all keyboards. So \
I'll leave this change it to your judgement.</p></pre> <br />




<p>- Frederik</p>


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<p>On May 6th, 2016, 7:11 a.m. UTC, Burkhard Lück wrote:</p>








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<div>Review request for Documentation and Localization and Translation (l10n).</div>
<div>By Burkhard Lück.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated May 6, 2016, 7:11 a.m.</i></p>









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 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kdoctools
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">&lt;keycap&gt;Del&lt;/keycap&gt; 25 x in \
l10n-kf5/documentation &lt;keycap&gt;Ins&lt;/keycap&gt; 13 x in \
l10n-kf5/documentation</p></pre>  </td>
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 <li>src/customization/en/user.entities <span style="color: \
grey">(de68e30)</span></li>

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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127730/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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