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Subject: Re: Minimum translation percentage for Plasma 5 release
From: Māris Nartišs <maris.kde () gmail ! com>
Date: 2014-08-12 8:56:40
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Hello Vincenzo,
I read Martin's reply as "it would not hurt to have partial translation".
Keep in mind the motivating factor. I joined KDE, QGIS and GRASS GIS
translation efforts because the shipped translations were incomplete,
imperfect or even bogus. Artificial percentage doesn't provide the quality
of translation. Those, who are following this mailing list, probably have
noticed "languageo FOO is FUBARED and I want to take over it to fix it"
type e-mails. Thus if the choice is between "partial translation" vs "no
translation", I would vote for "partial translation".
Although I liked Franklin's idea - 70% = warning barrier and like 50% =
hard barrier. If a language fails below 70% - warn the maintainer. If there
is no response from the maintainer within N release(s), stop shipping as it
is unmaintained. Thus there would be no 69.9% issue and maintainers
struggling to keep up the % would still have a chance to get language
shipped as long as they care.
A "no ship" barrier still would be nice, as there are some languages having
0% translated strings. Listing such language as an "one of KDE (SC)
languages" would make us a laughing stock.
Sorry, Albert, this offer adds some extra work for you.
Just my 0.02,
Maris.
2014-08-12 11:30 GMT+03:00 Vincenzo Reale <smart2128@baslug.org>:
> In data martedì 12 agosto 2014 10:17:59, Martin Schlander ha scritto:
> > Mandag den 11. august 2014 20:37:28 skrev Albert Astals Cid:
> > > So I am leaning towards "no minimum", but I certainly welcome all
> comments
> > > and am open to change.
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> >
> > Hmmm, as a translator it's probably in my interest not to have any
> minimum,
> > even though I don't plan to be flirting with 70% completion very much.
> >
> > The question is whether very incomplete translations might hurt
> KDE/Plasma
> > in the eyes of users, more than having no translations at all. But I'm
> > leaning towards no, probably not.
>
> Hi all,
> I fully agree with Martin's statement.
> Incomplete translations are really ugly to see. It's better having no
> translations.
>
> Regards,
> Vincenzo
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hello Vincenzo,<br></div>I read \
Martin's reply as "it would not hurt to have partial \
translation".<br><br></div>Keep in mind the motivating factor. I joined KDE, \
QGIS and GRASS GIS translation efforts because the shipped translations were \
incomplete, imperfect or even bogus. Artificial percentage doesn't provide the \
quality of translation. Those, who are following this mailing list, probably have \
noticed "languageo FOO is FUBARED and I want to take over it to fix it" \
type e-mails. Thus if the choice is between "partial translation" vs \
"no translation", I would vote for "partial translation".<br> \
<br></div>Although I liked Franklin's idea - 70% = warning barrier and like 50% \
= hard barrier. If a language fails below 70% - warn the maintainer. If there is no \
response from the maintainer within N release(s), stop shipping as it is \
unmaintained. Thus there would be no 69.9% issue and maintainers struggling to keep \
up the % would still have a chance to get language shipped as long as they care. <br> \
</div>A "no ship" barrier still would be nice, as there are some languages \
having 0% translated strings. Listing such language as an "one of KDE (SC) \
languages" would make us<span class=""> a laughing stock.<br> \
</span></div><div><span class="">Sorry, Albert, this offer adds some extra work for \
you.<br></span></div><div><span class=""><br></span></div><span class="">Just my \
0.02,<br></span></div><span class="">Maris.<br><br></span><div class="gmail_extra"> \
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-12 11:30 GMT+03:00 Vincenzo Reale <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smart2128@baslug.org" \
target="_blank">smart2128@baslug.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> In data martedì 12 agosto 2014 10:17:59, Martin Schlander \
ha scritto:<br> <div><div class="h5">> Mandag den 11. august 2014 20:37:28 skrev \
Albert Astals Cid:<br> > > So I am leaning towards "no minimum", but \
I certainly welcome all comments<br> > > and am open to change.<br>
> ><br>
> > Opinions?<br>
><br>
> Hmmm, as a translator it's probably in my interest not to have any \
minimum,<br> > even though I don't plan to be flirting with 70% completion \
very much.<br> ><br>
> The question is whether very incomplete translations might hurt KDE/Plasma<br>
> in the eyes of users, more than having no translations at all. But I'm<br>
> leaning towards no, probably not.<br>
<br>
</div></div>Hi all,<br>
I fully agree with Martin's statement.<br>
Incomplete translations are really ugly to see. It's better having no<br>
translations.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vincenzo<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div>
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