From kde-i18n-doc  Thu May 12 15:41:15 2011
From: Alexander Potashev <aspotashev () gmail ! com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 15:41:15 +0000
To: kde-i18n-doc
Subject: Re: KUIT "@action:undo" for QUndoCommand
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2011/5/12 Chusslove Illich <caslav.ilic@gmx.net>:
>> [: Alexander Potashev :]
>> What do you think about using KUIT "@action:undo" in context for strings
>> passed to QUndoCommand?
>
> There are three problems with this.
>
> The second problem is that it is insufficient on its own, because texts in
> undoing context are sometimes not explicitly set. You mentioned Krita, take
> for example the "Fill with Foreground Color" message: in the UI, it appears
> in the Edit menu, therefore its context should be "@action:inmenu Edit"; in
> the code, it is passed to KAction constructor. But, this string will also

Those 2 strings come from different i18n() call, so we can just
"split" them by adding a context to one of them.

> appear in "Undo <action>" menu item after the action is performed. Or, take
> the "Lens Blur" message, which in the code is simply the name of a filter
> (not directly passed to any object in particular) but still appears in "Undo
> <action>" after the filter is applied. This example also shows that the
> string in undoing context doesn't have to be originally an action at all.

Usage of "Lens Blur" is probably a bit hacky. If one string go not
only to QUndoCommand, I would prefer keeping it without
"(qtundo-format)" to not confuse translators.

> The third problem is that you would like this context marker also to tell
> you that you can use the new double-form functionality of QUndoCommand,
> which it cannot as such. What if some other kind of undo stack is used? It

"(qtundo-format)" make sense here.

> doesn't matter how probable this it, what matters is that context markers
> must not be linked to underlying functionality of particular classes. In
> other words, when I see @action:undo, I would not be free to assume that I
> can use the double-form translation.

But regardless of what exactly you put in the context ("@action:undo"
or "(qtundo-format)"), you'll need to keep track on particular
applications' dependencies (whether they depend on Qt 4.8+ or an older
version).

> I would instead propose the following context for QUndoCommand texts:
>  "... (qtundo-format) ..."

Thanks for the idea, will replace "@action:undo" with
"(qtundo-format)". This fixes the first problem from your list.

Is there or will there be a list of "(qtdt-format)" and friends like
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/i18n_Semantics
?


-- 
Alexander Potashev