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List:       kde-i18n-doc
Subject:    Re: Removing "Translators" in l10n.kde.org
From:       Sveinn í Felli <sveinki () nett ! is>
Date:       2010-03-05 8:52:28
Message-ID: 20100305085321.26679.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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Þann fös  5.mar 2010 05:22, skrifaði Yuri Chornoivan:
> написане Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:42:38 +0200, Albert Astals Cid
> <aacid@kde.org>:
>
>> Hi, i'd like to remove the "Translators" section in
>> http://l10n.kde.org/team-infos.php?teamcode=cs (cs as example) pages.
>>
>> My reasons are:
>> * Gets old fast
>> * People fight because they want a Team Coordinator badge

Makes the page a bit more "human" to have some names there, 
but gets outdated quickly. So, yes.

Maybe it could be nice to put a bit more visual emphasis on 
ML and Website names.

>> I'd also want to change the "About" section to say something along the
>> lines
>> of "If you want to contribute pleas contact the team mailing list (if it
>> exists) if the team mailing list does not exist or does not answer
>> after some
>> time please subscribe to kde-i18n-doc and ask for guidance"
>>
>> I'd also like to remove http://l10n.kde.org/register.php since it means
>> nothing, i've seen people register there in hope to help and never get
>> anything done because the "so called coordinators" were long absent.

Only had bots asking for registration through this form.

>> I agree that originally these sections seemed like a nice idea but i
>> only see
>> them bringing us grief and really not adding anything.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> Albert
>>
>
> Hi!
>
> I generally agree.
>
> But there is one thing that can leave us without any young blood. Yes, LP.
>
> As it seems from Timelord reports, Kubuntu won't remove KDE translation
> from LP or "Help translate this application" from menu. If someone want
> to translate, they either use Google and find LP on first positions or
> use "Help translate this application" item. In both cases LP (except
> from hidden wiki) does not give any hint about upstream.

Well, this has been added recently: 
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream>, it's up to 
each language team in LP to make a link to it. Sure it's 
"hidden" by the fact that the term "upstream" does not 
necessarily have any meaning for a novice wannabe-translator...

LP (ubuntu) has also made mandatory for the language teams 
to maintain a "Translation Guidelines" page, and it's 
getting difficult to translate some projects on LP without 
adhesion to a language team. So it seems they're making some 
effort.

> Can something like "Please do not translate in LP. It's downstream, your
> translations will not be used in any distribution except Ubuntu-based
> ones and will be silently overwritten if someone change them in KDE
> repository even in Ubuntu-based distributions." be added on the page?
>
> And where can I submit team mailing list address?
>
> BTW can I update how-to when current changes on docbook autogeneration
> and other translation-related things will be in place?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Yuri

This former page, 
http://l10n.kde.org/team-infos.php?teamcode=xx, is not 
directly editable by each language team, right?

Best regards,

Sveinn í Felli


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