From kde-i18n-doc  Sat Jul 15 12:39:41 2006
From: Yukiko Bando <ybando () k6 ! dion ! ne ! jp>
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:39:41 +0000
To: kde-i18n-doc
Subject: Re: Rosetta for Edgy and KDE [Was: Rosetta for Kubuntu Dapper and KDE]
Message-Id: <200607152139.41897.ybando () k6 ! dion ! ne ! jp>
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Tom Albers wrote:
> Op zaterdag 15 juli 2006 10:39, schreef Yukiko Bando:
> > Tom Albers wrote:
> > > Op vrijdag 14 juli 2006 07:19, schreef Jannick Kuhr:
> > > > Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 01:51 schrieb Tom Albers:
> > > > > I don't think adding a link will harm KDE more ( or less ) than
> > > > > an icon change of konquerors logo, changing the default
> > > > > homepage of konqueror or replacing the icon of the start menu
> > > > > with a SUSE or Red Hat icon.
> > > >
> > > > I think it is much more. By placing a link to the Lauchpad
> > > > homepage with the title "Translate this program" the Ubuntu guys
> > > > pretend this is the official option to translate the application.
> > > > A new, unexperienced user will never get the idea, that there
> > > > might be an official translation team, which provides
> > > > translations for all distributions including Ubuntu. In the first
> > > > few month this won't harm us, but if other distributions start to
> > > > do the same, it will become dificult to find good translators for
> > > > the official teams.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to make one proposal:
> > > >
> > > > Place the link, but let it pop up an dialog, which explains the
> > > > situation:
> > > >
> > > > "If you want to impropve the translation of %1 you have two
> > > > possibilities. You can get in contact with the official KDE
> > > > translation team for your language or you can start to improve
> > > > Kubuntu's translation immediatly using Lauchpad. If you do the
> > > > latter, your translations will probably not reach the users of
> > > > other distributions and could be overwritten sometime by a
> > > > translation of the official KDE translation teams. However it is
> > > > easy and your translation will appear immediately in Kubuntu"
> > > >
> > > > Behind this text two buttons, this example for dutch ;-)
> > > >
> > > > "Dutch KDE Team"
> > > > "Lauchpad"
> > > >
> > > > This would be a soultion I could live with. Especially because
> > > > it's clear for the user what he/she is doing and that there are
> > > > different possibilities.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards, Jannick
> > >
> > > This is a joke, right?
> > >
> > > Toma
> >
> > What makes you think it's a joke?  No offense to you, but I'm just
> > curious.  I have the exact same worries as Jannick...
> >
> > Yukiko
>
> I think you are far from being constructive here. I offered to try to
> setup a dialog between you and them, but you have ignored that part of
> my mail.
>
> So please carry on expressing your worries, and Jannick too, but please
> don't be surprised that nothing will change at Rosetta's. You were not
> interested.

I wouldn't be surprised.  We already expressed our opinions to Jonathan 
but nothing changed.     

I thank him for coming here to make the announcement but I'll forget about 
Rosetta for now.  I just cannot accept the idea.  Translation is my 
hobby.  I want to enjoy it without being disturbed. :)  

Hopefully, some translators at Rosetta will send their translations 
upstream as a courtesy.  Like it or not, (K)ubuntu uses what has been 
done by thousands of volunteers who use many different distros. 

Yukiko