David Faure wrote: > > > clipboard. Anyway, I've decided not to wait, so I have implemented my > > own clipboard for internal objects, which acts as well as a wrapper over > > the Qt clipboard, and it works fine. Therefore it can be done. > > Of course it can be done ! > But if you did it, you could have contributed to the KDE by sharing your > work, so that the whole KDE would have a fully functional clipboard. I'm afraid it's internal use only... I usually like to stay in my corner and write my code.. > > > And it's not only the clipboard. It's the drag-and-drop. And I could go > > on for a long time like that, but this is not the point. There is > > nothing wrong about thinking of the future - as long as we have a steady > > present. A real desktop environment is made with good applications, > > which we don't quite have, and they require good libraries and good > > documentation. > > Feel free to contribute, if you something misses work ! > We're doing what we can !! maybe you need a vCard 3.0 library... > > > You can't make the things perfect, but nobody asks that. > > You seem to ask that.... Without having contributed an inch. That's not fair to say. I don't ask, I expect - big difference. It's certainly okay if you just ignore me. I've just put a considerable amount of time and energy in this project and things are not looking pink, at least not from where I'm standing. Maybe I'm wrong. And about the contribution part: it doesn't show (yet), but I really worked hard for the last three months, because I do want to make a things better. Don't get me wrong, I respect your work (quite a lot), that's why I've chosen KDE and not GTK/GNOME, but that's the exact reason I feel I have to say my opinion, and since this list is supposed to be democratic you're free to listen or not. > > > What you can do is provide a base, before thinking too hard about the > > next kfm. I know it's more exciting to decide the next features of the > > version 1.1 rather than writing the help for 1.0, but it's up to you to > > decide which one is the mature choice. > > Personally, I'm doing both at the same time. Have a look at how many bugs > I've fixed in kfm - the current one, kfm II - since I maintain it (October > 1998). You'll _really_ be surprised. > About the clipboard, I implemented copy/paste of text (from line edits, > HTML pages, ...) as well as URLs. So yes, I addressed the problem of the > clipboard (but I had to deal with the old internal kfm clipboard for URLs, > so it wasn't a global solution for KDE). But there were many many other > things to fix. > > I don't need somebody to tell me what I should do. Certainly not the way > you do. It's hard to answer to this quite impolite accusation, if I may say so, without making things "hotter". I appologise if this is what you think I was doing. I merely tried to draw your attention to something very important to me: I think that more effort should be put into making KDE a good development environment. Of course you can say: "feel free to contribute" and that is true, to a certain extent. Namely, I didn't write the KDE libraries, and I'd like to focus more on making KDE applications, as I do believe that a KDE without applications is just another window manager - cool indeed, as Windows without applications is nothing. > I think I can at the same time fix the current kfm AND think about the next > version of it without this being an immature choice. > > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > | | > | David FAURE | > | E-mail : David.Faure@insa-lyon.fr, faure@kde.org | > | http://www.insa-lyon.fr/People/AEDI/dfaure/index.html | > |____________________________________________________________________| Regards, teddy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Teodor Romeo Mihai [email: teddy@piercom.ie] Development Systems Engineer at Piercom Ltd. Eurotechnopole Building, Holland Road National Technological Park, Limerick Ireland Tel. +353 61 201972 Fax + 353 61 335051