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Subject:    [Fwd: important!]
From:       Stephan Kulow <coolo () kde ! org>
Date:       1998-10-04 10:19:50
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I can't imagine a way for you to translate "Next >>". It's
_always_ used as wizard button. It's in text.cpp only because
kwizard.h uses this as define.

The rest I will remove.

Greetings, Stephan

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From: Andrea Rizzi <bilibao@ouverture.it>
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I sent this message to kde-i18n but it doesn't appeare there.
Please fwd it.

On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Stephan Kulow wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I changed the meaning of kde.pot and this has big consequences!
> Til now it was the template file for kdelibs, but this got too
> dangerous, because the more strings are in this file, the bigger
> is the danger, that translations are ambigious.
> 
> One interesting example is the word "May". It's the long form
> and the short form for the name of the month may and it was just
> as both in kdelibs (in the file selector and the date selector).
> So, it was impossible for Esperanto to give the word May a
> meaning. Interestingly enough in German both is Mai and I haven't
> thought about it at all. I wonder, what it means in other languages,
> but I'm too lazy to look in the translations :)
> 
> That brought me to the conclusion, that it may work to keep
> this in the right way in kdelibs, but since kde.pot is also
> used to exclude translations from other applications, the things
> get too messy, since such problems wouldn't even noticed until
> you see it in the application. 
> 
> So, kde.pot now only contains the messages, that we put in
> kdelibs/po/texts.cpp. Those are also excluded from other
> application templates. kdelibs.pot is now, what kde.pot used
> to be - the template to translate. 
> 
> So, for you nothing changes, you still get the $LANG.po and
> translate, what you find, it's just the template name, that
> has changed. BUTTH: the applications may contain more untranslated
> words now, because they excluded before. But we can't avoid
> this, when the word has more than one meaning (and this happens
> quite often). But if you find a word, where you're sure, that
> it has only one meaning and can only be used in one context,
> then we can add it to text.cpp and it will be excluded next 
> time. 
> 
> The biggest problems are adjectives, since they can have several
> translations in Italian for example depending on the context
> (when I remember right mino, mina, mini for min. 
Really ??
> [God, how I
> hate everything that looks like Latin ;-)]). Those you will
> find very often, so don't be suprised.
> 
For italian you MUST remove:

New = Nuovo or Nuova or Nuovi or Nuove
Forward = avanti or Inoltra(in mail context)
Done = may change, but if the problem is only italian you can keep it.
Small,Medium=piccolo/a/i/e,Medio/a/i/e
Large is OK in Italian but I think n other languages may be different.
Next=Successivo/a
"Next >>"...
"Default" If I keep in english this word we have no problem,but if I translate
it may be predefinito/a/i/e

In my opinion all adj have to be removed.

Bye
Andrea

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