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Subject: D23384: [WIP] Adding support for mounting KIOFuse URLs for applications that don't use KIO
From: Nathaniel Graham <noreply () phabricator ! kde ! org>
Date: 2019-12-01 18:35:42
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ngraham added a comment.
In D23384#570125 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D23384#570125>, @dfaure wrote:
> @ngraham AFAIK gnome has a trick where a fuse mount is created, its path is \
passed to the application being started, and the application, if it supports gvfs, \
re-translates that into a URL and uses that instead if it makes more sense. This way \
"dumb" apps get a local file (with all the limitations of doing synchronous I/O over \
the network) and network-transparent applications use URLs. > On the other hand, \
the KDE logic is "if the app takes %f and not %u in the Exec line, it doesn't support \
remote URLs, so we need to download the file first" (that's done by kioexec). If you \
see a "download first" check if kioexec is running. But if it's the app doing it, \
then I have no idea.
`kioexec` is not running during any of these lengthy downloads. Totem, VLC, and \
SMplayer all have %U in their desktop files, FWIW.
We may want to rethink this logic anyway. Any app that doesn't integrate with \
ioslaves should get the FUSE path rather than a locally-downloaded file, irrespective \
of whether or not its desktop file has %f or %u IMO. There are just too many \
disadvantages to the locally downloaded file approach, which is why we're doing this \
FUSE thing in the first place.
Perhaps the "lengthy local download first" issue is caused by not having \
https://invent.kde.org/kde/kio-fuse/merge_requests/2 yet.
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https://phabricator.kde.org/D23384
To: feverfew, fvogt, davidedmundson, dfaure, ngraham
Cc: sitter, davidedmundson, kde-frameworks-devel, ngraham, LeGast00n, GB_2, michaelh, \
bruns
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padding-bottom: 4px;">In <a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D23384#570125" style="background-color: #e7e7e7; \
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href="https://phabricator.kde.org/p/dfaure/" style=" border-color: #f1f7ff;
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color: rgb(107, 116, 140);"><p><a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/p/ngraham/" style=" border-color: #f1f7ff;
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padding: 0 4px;">@ngraham</a> AFAIK gnome has a trick where a fuse \
mount is created, its path is passed to the application being started, and the \
application, if it supports gvfs, re-translates that into a URL and uses that instead \
if it makes more sense. This way "dumb" apps get a local file (with all the \
limitations of doing synchronous I/O over the network) and network-transparent \
applications use URLs.<br /> On the other hand, the KDE logic is "if the app \
takes %f and not %u in the Exec line, it doesn't support remote URLs, so we need \
to download the file first" (that's done by kioexec). If you see a \
"download first" check if kioexec is running. But if it's the app \
doing it, then I have no idea.</p></div> </blockquote>
<p><tt style="background: #ebebeb; font-size: 13px;">kioexec</tt> is not running \
during any of these lengthy downloads. Totem, VLC, and SMplayer all have %U in their \
desktop files, FWIW.</p>
<p>We may want to rethink this logic anyway. Any app that doesn't integrate with \
ioslaves should get the FUSE path rather than a locally-downloaded file, irrespective \
of whether or not its desktop file has %f or %u IMO. There are just too many \
disadvantages to the locally downloaded file approach, which is why we're doing \
this FUSE thing in the first place.</p>
<p>Perhaps the "lengthy local download first" issue is caused by not having \
<a href="https://invent.kde.org/kde/kio-fuse/merge_requests/2" class="remarkup-link" \
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://invent.kde.org/kde/kio-fuse/merge_requests/2</a> \
yet.</p></div></div><br /><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R241 \
KIO</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D23384">https://phabricator.kde.org/D23384</a></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>To: </strong>feverfew, fvogt, davidedmundson, dfaure, ngraham<br \
/><strong>Cc: </strong>sitter, davidedmundson, kde-frameworks-devel, ngraham, \
LeGast00n, GB_2, michaelh, bruns<br /></div>
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