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List:       kde-frameworks-devel
Subject:    Re: KTitleWidget and the native Mac style
From:       Kevin Funk <kfunk () kde ! org>
Date:       2017-07-04 13:49:28
Message-ID: 4631128.6eUVW7zat1 () kerberos
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On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 14:53:15 CEST René J. V. Bertin wrote:
> René J.V. Bertin wrote:
> > style. I think I figured out the how/where once but can't seem to find the
> > info anymore so I'd appreciate a pointer.
> 
> Found it.
> 
> > FWIW, drawing this kind of label in a frame and/or with a different
> > background colour isn't appropriate for the native Macintosh style.
> 
> And this is where we have a problem if you're adamant about being as much in
> line with native look-and-feel as possible, as I know some KDE devs are.
> 
> I haven't found a single example of a "native" Mac application that uses
> comparable page/dialog titles rendered with a bigger font and in a frame
> with a different background colour.
> 
> I myself don't really care one way or another, if anything I find it more
> important that the user has a choice at some level. Ideally this would go
> through the widget style (as Breeze allows and QtCurve probably too) but the
> Macintosh style is not configurable and I don't think Qt would consider
> adding the rather complex patch required to render KTitleWidgets
> appropriately.
> 
> That leaves us with the only option of modifying the KTitleWidget code.

With regards to the "Widget Style and Behaviour" label in the `kcmshell5 
style` dialog: I don't find that particularly attracting under Breeze as well.

It's too "bulky" for my taste. 

CC'ing Sebas, who've reworked the widget to look like this in

commit 510236aa9cea6bae48e548b42b5b721195bed121
Author: Sebastian Kügler <sebas@kde.org>
Date:   Sat May 24 01:36:51 2014 +0200

    Change titlewidget from bold to increased font size
    
    This patch removes the bold weight from KTitleWidget and makes the text
    a bit bigger, improving focus. This is more in line with common
    expectations of a title, and it's more in line with Plasma 5's
    typography.


Maybe we can find a solution that works well under both styles?

PS: I've no incentive for getting this fixed, just wanted to add my 2c and 
connect people.

Cheers,
Kevin

> I'll
> submit a patch for review that adds a runtime check of the widget style in
> use but if anyone has a better idea I wouldn't mind hearing it and avoiding
> unnecessary work.
> 
> R.


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