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Subject: Re: Scope of framework integration plugin?
From: Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano () tiscali ! it>
Date: 2015-11-30 11:59:02
Message-ID: 4474731.tcPZVvebOP () whitebase ! usersys ! redhat ! com
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On Monday 30 of November 2015 12:48:26 Martin Graesslin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> there is currently a review request to add OSX specific changes to framework
> integration plugin [1].
>
> This seems wrong to me. I think our framework integration plugin is about
> integration Qt applications into the Plasma workspace. In my opinion it
> should not be used anywhere else. Not on GNOME, not on Windows and not on
> OSX. The idea of integration is that applications look native on the
> desired platform. The plugin defines the native look on Plasma and by that
> using it on other platforms is automatically breaking the integration.
>
> Now I understand that some people don't like the native look of their
> platform and would prefer using Plasma. Sorry I don't have an answer to
> that. Unfortunately I think it's completely out of scope for the
> integration platform to be considered outside Plasma.
Really? I see people trying to use KDE Applications (for example on #kde) on
different desktop environment and being confused for the look and feel. I
understand that:
- you don't want the Plasma look used outside Plasma
- yes, other desktop environment should provide and integration plugin
but isn't it really possible to have a "simpler" default integration plugin,
when no one else is provided, that at least show the icons, for example?
I think we are not helping users of KDE applications but not Plasma users, and
let's be realistic about the possibility of other desktop environment
providing an integration plugin.
> Given that: if people agree with my view that the framework integration is
> only about Plasma, I suggest that we move the framework integration to kde/
> workspace to release it together with Plasma instead of frameworks.
IMHO only if it's possible to package and load it outside Plasma, or otherwise
if there is a more sane default plugin.
Ciao
--
Luigi
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