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Subject: Re: Review Request 126078: [OS X] modernising the KIdleTime plugin (WIP!)
From: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valorie.zimmerman () gmail ! com>
Date: 2015-11-19 9:00:04
Message-ID: 20151119090004.14400.32941 () mimi ! kde ! org
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Hello folks, Martin Graesslin has asked the CWG to step in here. This is Valorie \
writing. I can't comment on the technical aspects here, but I'm disappointed in the \
way this was handled. The review process is really important to the entire KDE \
community. We share our proposals, ask for feedback, then engage in dialog. This is \
*thinking together.* Instead, I'm seeing defensiveness, exasperation, and finally \
anger.
Please, everyone step back, calm down, and let's reconsider the issue afresh. Surely \
we can do a better job in providing great software to our users.
- Valorie Zimmerman
On Nov. 18, 2015, 4:35 p.m., René J.V. Bertin wrote:
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> (Updated Nov. 18, 2015, 4:35 p.m.)
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> Review request for KDE Software on Mac OS X, KDE Frameworks and Dario Freddi.
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> Repository: kidletime
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> Description
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> I noticed that the KIdleTime example doesn't work properly on OS X, and that the \
> plugin for OS X still uses the deprecated Carbon-based algorithm that I already \
> patched for KDE4.
> This patch is a work-in-progress (hence the qDebugs) update to use IOKit, \
> IORegistry and CoreServices to do idle-time calculation as it should be done, and \
> allow simulated user activity through a "less deprecated" function.
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> Diffs
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> src/plugins/osx/CMakeLists.txt e1b50b8
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126078/diff/
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> Testing
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> On OS X 10.9 with Qt 5.5.1 and frameworks 5.16.0 .
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> The example now works: when I set a QTimer with interval==0, the expected wait for \
> user input (`resumingFromIdle` signal) works. However, I am getting a \
> `stopCatchingIdleEvents` signal which means the application waits forever, without \
> ever getting to compare idle time to the list of timeouts. I haven't been able to \
> figure out where that signal comes from, nor why this doesn't happen on Linux.
> Surely I'm missing something, but what?
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>
> Thanks,
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> René J.V. Bertin
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folks, Martin Graesslin has asked the CWG to step in here. This is Valorie writing. I \
can't comment on the technical aspects here, but I'm disappointed in the way this was \
handled. The review process is really important to the entire KDE community. We share \
our proposals, ask for feedback, then engage in dialog. This is <em style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
normal;">thinking together.</em> Instead, I'm seeing defensiveness, exasperation, and \
finally anger.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Please, everyone step back, calm down, \
and let's reconsider the issue afresh. Surely we can do a better job in providing \
great software to our users.</p></pre> <br />
<p>- Valorie Zimmerman</p>
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<p>On November 18th, 2015, 4:35 p.m. UTC, René J.V. Bertin wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KDE Software on Mac OS X, KDE Frameworks and Dario \
Freddi.</div> <div>By René J.V. Bertin.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Nov. 18, 2015, 4:35 p.m.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kidletime
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">I noticed that the KIdleTime example doesn't work \
properly on OS X, and that the plugin for OS X still uses the deprecated Carbon-based \
algorithm that I already patched for KDE4.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">This patch is a \
work-in-progress (hence the qDebugs) update to use IOKit, IORegistry and CoreServices \
to do idle-time calculation as it should be done, and allow simulated user activity \
through a "less deprecated" function.</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">On OS X 10.9 with Qt 5.5.1 and frameworks 5.16.0 .</p> \
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">The example now works: when I set a QTimer with \
interval==0, the expected wait for user input (<code style="text-rendering: \
inherit;color: #4444cc;padding: 0;white-space: normal;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;">resumingFromIdle</code> signal) works. However, I am getting a <code \
style="text-rendering: inherit;color: #4444cc;padding: 0;white-space: normal;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;">stopCatchingIdleEvents</code> signal which means the \
application waits forever, without ever getting to compare idle time to the list of \
timeouts. I haven't been able to figure out where that signal comes from, nor why \
this doesn't happen on Linux.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Surely I'm missing \
something, but what?</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>src/plugins/osx/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(e1b50b8)</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126078/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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