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Subject:    Re: Review Request 122706: A KCModule base for QML based KCMs
From:       "Ben Cooksley" <bcooksley () kde ! org>
Date:       2015-02-25 21:53:52
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> On Feb. 24, 2015, 10:59 a.m., David Edmundson wrote:
> > src/kcmoduleqml.h, line 36
> > <https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122706/diff/3/?file=351295#file351295line36>
> > 
> > When we do make a QML only system settings we're not going to want to use \
> > KCMModule at all, even if it's not shown? 
> > I imagine we'll end up writing a small QObject shim that copies the API.
> > 
> > I'd just leave this until we find we need it, otherwise we're committing to a \
> > slightly weird API prematurely.
> 
> Marco Martin wrote:
> I can move it out for now, but i don't think is realistic to expect to port \
> everything away from kcmmodule overnight. porting all to this will be hard enough \
> already, reporting a second time i think is really a framework6 thing. If there \
> will exist a qml based systemsettings, it will have to be able to load things all \
> the way in the transition spectrum: old qwidget ones and those, which can ignore \
> the qwidget part. It's clearly transitional but i don't think there is a way to \
> realistically have qobject only ones before there is something working in place? 
> Marco Martin wrote:
> Thinking about it, one way that and almost legacyless way could be done is:
> having in a separate library, tier2 a qobject based thing that has an api similar \
> to kcmodule, and doing the qml kcms directly in that. then this class goes in \
> pretty similar, except the plugins wouldn't subclass it, but would be used directly \
> to load one of those qobject only thinghies. the disadvantage would be that \
> systemsettings, kcmshell (and pretty much any app config dialog that loads kcms) \
> would have to directly special case for this, so the transition would be more \
> painful. 
> Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> Makes sense. I think we can combine the two approaches.
> 
> * New-style QML "KCMs" do not link KCModule directly, but rather use the imports \
>                 you describe.
> * A special-sauce KCM does the necessary bits to load these new-style KCMs (pretty \
> much what this patch does, really) 
> That way, we allow legacy-free new-style, but make it compatible with everything \
> old-style, QWidget-based KCMs, systemsettings, kcmshell, etc. 
> A new "systemsettings-qml" would have to be special-cased in order to also load \
> KCModule/QWidget-based modules, but I don't think there's any way around that \
> anyway.

The architecture of System Settings should allow it to host native QML KCMs without \
having to use the KCModule class, assuming the appropriate changes are made.


- Ben


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On Feb. 25, 2015, 5:40 p.m., Marco Martin wrote:
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> (Updated Feb. 25, 2015, 5:40 p.m.)
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> 
> Review request for KDE Frameworks.
> 
> 
> Repository: kconfigwidgets
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> this adds a new class called KCModuleQml
> it loads a KPackage with the same plugin name as the kcm, then loads its mainscript \
> qml file from it and puts it in a QQuickView used as main widget of the KCM. 
> It supports two ways of loading the qml:
> one is in the showevent of the KCM qwidget, this is compatible with current \
> Systemsettings and kcmshell. the other way is with the mainUi accessor/qproperty. \
> This will make possible for a pure QML version of systemsettings (accessing \
> directly mainUi without showing qwidgets) 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> CMakeLists.txt f3aaf18 
> src/CMakeLists.txt 10862c6 
> src/kcmoduleqml.h PRE-CREATION 
> src/kcmoduleqml.cpp PRE-CREATION 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122706/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Marco Martin
> 
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On February 24th, 2015, 10:59 a.m. UTC, <b>David \
Edmundson</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
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class="n">QQuickItem</span> <span class="o">*</span><span \
class="nf">mainUi</span><span class="p">();</span></pre></td>  </tr>

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  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">When \
we do make a QML only system settings we're not going to want to use KCMModule at \
all, even if it's not shown?</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I imagine we'll end up writing a small \
QObject shim that copies the API.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I'd just leave this \
until we find we need it, otherwise we're committing to a slightly weird API \
prematurely.</p></pre>  </blockquote>



 <p>On February 24th, 2015, 11:07 a.m. UTC, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I can \
move it out for now, but i don't think is realistic to expect to port everything away \
from kcmmodule overnight. porting all to this will be hard enough already, reporting \
a second time i think is really a framework6 thing. If there will exist a qml based \
systemsettings, it will have to be able to load things all the way in the transition \
spectrum: old qwidget ones and those, which can ignore the qwidget part. It's clearly \
transitional but i don't think there is a way to realistically have qobject only ones \
before there is something working in place?</p></pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On February 25th, 2015, 5:45 p.m. UTC, <b>Marco Martin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">Thinking about it, one way that and almost legacyless way could be done is: \
having in a separate library, tier2 a qobject based thing that has an api similar to \
kcmodule, and doing the qml kcms directly in that. then this class goes in pretty \
similar, except the plugins wouldn't subclass it, but would be used directly to load \
one of those qobject only thinghies. the disadvantage would be that systemsettings, \
kcmshell (and pretty much any app config dialog that loads kcms) would have to \
directly special case for this, so the transition would be more painful.</p></pre>  \
</blockquote>





 <p>On February 25th, 2015, 6:13 p.m. UTC, <b>Sebastian Kügler</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Makes \
sense. I think we can combine the two approaches.</p> <ul style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0 0 0 1em;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
normal;"> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: normal;">New-style QML "KCMs" do not link KCModule directly, but \
rather use the imports you describe.</li> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">A special-sauce KCM does \
the necessary bits to load these new-style KCMs (pretty much what this patch does, \
really)</li> </ul>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">That way, we allow legacy-free new-style, but make it \
compatible with everything old-style, QWidget-based KCMs, systemsettings, kcmshell, \
etc.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">A new "systemsettings-qml" would have to be \
special-cased in order to also load KCModule/QWidget-based modules, but I don't think \
there's any way around that anyway.</p></pre>  </blockquote>







</blockquote>
<pre style="margin-left: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">The architecture of System Settings should allow it to host native QML KCMs \
without having to use the KCModule class, assuming the appropriate changes are \
made.</p></pre> <br />




<p>- Ben</p>


<br />
<p>On February 25th, 2015, 5:40 p.m. UTC, Marco Martin wrote:</p>








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<div>Review request for KDE Frameworks.</div>
<div>By Marco Martin.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Feb. 25, 2015, 5:40 p.m.</i></p>









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 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kconfigwidgets
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
 <table width="100%" bgcolor="#ffffff" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" \
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">this adds a new class called KCModuleQml it loads a \
KPackage with the same plugin name as the kcm, then loads its mainscript qml file \
from it and puts it in a QQuickView used as main widget of the KCM.</p> <p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">It supports two ways of loading the qml: one is in the showevent of the KCM \
qwidget, this is compatible with current Systemsettings and kcmshell. the other way \
is with the mainUi accessor/qproperty. This will make possible for a pure QML version \
of systemsettings (accessing directly mainUi without showing qwidgets)</p></pre>  \
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(f3aaf18)</span></li>

 <li>src/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(10862c6)</span></li>

 <li>src/kcmoduleqml.h <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>src/kcmoduleqml.cpp <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122706/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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