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Subject: Re: KDE 5 versioning in documentation
From: Martin Klapetek <martin.klapetek () gmail ! com>
Date: 2014-02-25 21:47:51
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Hey,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:32 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth <
tchollingsworth@gmail.com> wrote:
> While reviewing some major changes I made to the Kate documentation
> for Kate 5, Luigi Toscano noticed I changed "<releaseinfo>3.12 &kde;
> 4.12</releaseinfo>" to "<releaseinfo>5.0 &kde; 5.0</releaseinfo>"
> without thinking.
>
> I guess "KDE 5.0" isn't going to be a thing in the future, so that
> begs the question as to what to change this to in all our
> applications' documentation.
>
Correct, no KDE 5, no more KDE in fact (more below).
>
> For things in the workspace, I guess we'll just want
> "<releaseinfo>&kde-plasma-workspaces; 2.0</releaseinfo>" or so? Easy
> enough.
>
We decided to drop "Workspaces" from the name, it's too techy for no real
gain. Also decided to drop "KDE" from the name as people still confuse the
names and call it just "KDE 4.12.1". The new name for what would logically
be "KDE Workspaces 5" is just "Plasma" + release date, so "Plasma 2014.06"
will be the upcoming first release.
> Will the "KDE Software Compilation" still be a thing in the KF5 era,
> complete with its own versioned releases? If that's the case, we'll
> probably just want to change "KDE" to "KDE SC" in the <releaseinfo>
> for frameworks-based apps and call it a day.
>
Not in its current form afaik. There will be three big "modules" -
Frameworks, Plasma and Applications. Given the progress on their "5"
versions is different, there are also different release schedules for both,
so no more SC in the current sense (that name also got dropped couple years
ago, no?).
We'd like to put heavy accent on *not* using KDE anymore in around the
workspace releases, so no more KDE Plasma, but just "Plasma", possibly with
"by KDE" touch. It'd be awesome to get it away from apps to, so it would
become "Dolphin for Plasma" instead of "KDE Dolphin" etc.
> If we're instead going to release all applications on their own
> schedules, we'll instead probably just want to drop any mention of a
> KDE version in applications' documentation. (Or add "on KDE
> Frameworks 5" or something like that?)
>
I'm not sure what's the plan for apps. Their "4" versions will just work
with Plasma and we expect to actually ship the first Plasma with
applications based on kdelibs (please correct me if I'm wrong).
> I'm also going to submit a review request shortly adding entities for
> all this new nomenclature so we can refer to it consistently in
> documentation in KF5-based applications. People interested in this
> sort of thing please double-check it for accuracy..
>
Cool, make sure you add kdeframeworks group as reviewers.
Cheers
--
Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer
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<div dir="ltr">Hey,<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 \
at 1:32 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tchollingsworth@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">tchollingsworth@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">While reviewing some major changes I made to the Kate documentation<br> \
for Kate 5, Luigi Toscano noticed I changed "<releaseinfo>3.12 &kde;<br> \
4.12</releaseinfo>" to "<releaseinfo>5.0 &kde; \
5.0</releaseinfo>"<br> without thinking.<br>
<br>
I guess "KDE 5.0" isn't going to be a thing in the future, so that<br>
begs the question as to what to change this to in all our<br>
applications' documentation.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Correct, no KDE 5, no more \
KDE in fact (more below).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
For things in the workspace, I guess we'll just want<br>
"<releaseinfo>&kde-plasma-workspaces; 2.0</releaseinfo>" or so? \
Easy<br> enough.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We decided to drop "Workspaces" \
from the name, it's too techy for no real gain. Also decided to drop "KDE" from \
the name as people still confuse the names and call it just "KDE 4.12.1". The new \
name for what would logically be "KDE Workspaces 5" is just "Plasma" + \
release date, so "Plasma 2014.06" will be the upcoming first release.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Will the "KDE Software Compilation" still be a thing in the \
KF5 era,<br> complete with its own versioned releases? If that's the case, we'll<br>
probably just want to change "KDE" to "KDE SC" in the \
<releaseinfo><br> for frameworks-based apps and call it a \
day.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not in its current form afaik. There will be three big \
"modules" - Frameworks, Plasma and Applications. Given the progress on their \
"5" versions is different, there are also different release schedules for both, so no \
more SC in the current sense (that name also got dropped couple years ago, no?). </div>
<div><br></div><div>We'd like to put heavy accent on *not* using KDE anymore in around the \
workspace releases, so no more KDE Plasma, but just "Plasma", possibly with "by \
KDE" touch. It'd be awesome to get it away from apps to, so it would become \
"Dolphin for Plasma" instead of "KDE Dolphin" etc.</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> If we're instead going to release all applications on their \
own<br> schedules, we'll instead probably just want to drop any mention of a<br>
KDE version in applications' documentation. (Or add "on KDE<br>
Frameworks 5" or something like that?)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not \
sure what's the plan for apps. Their "4" versions will just work with Plasma and \
we expect to actually ship the first Plasma with applications based on kdelibs (please correct \
me if I'm wrong).</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> I'm also going to submit a review request shortly adding entities \
for<br> all this new nomenclature so we can refer to it consistently in<br>
documentation in KF5-based applications. People interested in this<br>
sort of thing please double-check it for accuracy..<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cool, \
make sure you add kdeframeworks group as \
reviewers.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>-- <br><div><span \
style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer</span></div>
</div></div>
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