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Subject: Re: Aw: Re: LabPlot - Cannot print or export
From: Bill Gee <bgee () campercaver ! net>
Date: 2021-01-05 1:33:58
Message-ID: 3005062.D8ZAKjAxdT () main2 ! billgee ! local
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Hi Alexander -
I brought up a test machine under KVM to see if the flatpak would work. It sort of works, \
though as far as I can tell it will not save any file. It certainly does not save files to the \
directory I tell it to. I tried saving a project and printing a PDF with the target being \
/home/bgee/Documents ... but nothing ever appears there. Curiously, when I reprint to the \
same filename, it says that file already exists! Double curious - Exporting as a PNG does put \
the file where I expect it.
There is something weird going on. Are the files being saved inside a virtual environment? If \
so, how do I get to them from outside the virtual environment?
Flatpaks, snaps and containers all strike me as a very neat solution for which no problem \
exists. It took about 1 gigabyte of downloads to support a program that is less than 20 \
megabytes in size. It won't save files where I tell it to. The filename dialog boxes always \
pop up behind all other windows when they should be at the top of the Z-order. If I change \
themes, colors, icons, pointers, the changes are not used by the flatpak application.
So what is the advantage?
--
Bill Gee
On Monday, January 4, 2021 2:51:45 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:
>
> Bill, would flatpack be an option for you?
>
> https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.kde.labplot2
>
>
> Gesendet: Montag, 04. Januar 2021 um 21:30 Uhr
> Von: "Bill Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net>
> An: kde-edu@kde.org, "Alexander Semke" <alexander.semke@web.de>
> Cc: kde-edu@mail.kde.org
> Betreff: Re: Aw: LabPlot - Cannot print or export
>
> Hi Alexander -
>
>
>
> Who'd a thunk it? Your suggestion of skipping the workbook and going straight to a \
> spreadsheet works! I can print and export plots, and the saved project will reload with all \
> my plots present. When the plots are inside a workbook, the print and export options do \
> nothing.
>
>
> Yeah, it would be nice to have the current version, but I don't see an easy way to do it \
> until some Fedora maintainer gets around to building a new package.
>
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bill Gee
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 4, 2021 2:14:12 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill,
>
> >
>
> > we had a problem with restoring the connections to columns in spreadsheets that are part of \
> > a workbook. This bug is already fixed but I think it's still present in the version you're \
> > using. To workaround this problem now without upgrading to the most recent version (should \
> > be the preferred way, though) is to create a "stand-alone" spreadsheet. So, just create a \
> > new spreadsheet without the workbook and import your data.
>
> >
>
> > As to the export, this should work actually. If you select the plot and click on the export \
> > button in the toolbar, are you able to export to PDF and PNG or JPEG?
>
> >
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Alexander
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 04. Januar 2021 um 20:42 Uhr
>
> > Von: "Bill Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net>
>
> > An: kde-edu@mail.kde.org
>
> > Betreff: LabPlot - Cannot print or export
>
> >
>
> > Fedora 33, KDE/Plasma desktop, LabPlot version 2.7.0 from the Fedora repository
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I touch LabPlot once a year for a special need, so much of my knowledge evaporates over the \
> > year. It is time for me to get back to it.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I have a project with a workbook that links to a CSV file of values. I figured out how to \
> > create a basic plot. Now I have two problems:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 1) When I save the project, the plots are NOT saved. Every time I open the project, I have \
> > to create the plots again. Who can I save plots?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 2) Once the plots are created, I want to print them to PDF and export them to JPG. \
> > File-Print and File-Export do nothing. It is like clicking on /dev/null. There is no \
> > error, no windows pop up, nothing is printed ... How can I get these features to work? It \
> > is almost like LabPlot thinks there is nothing to print.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If I select the worksheet, then File-Export does work. Of course, that's not what I want \
> > to export! When i select a plot, I get nothing.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Snaps are not an option. The version of LabPlot in the snap library is 2.6.0 which does \
> > not have some of the features I need. Flatpaks are not an option because the flatpak \
> > package requires Wayland, and I cannot run that. The nVidia display driver does not work \
> > with Wayland. And as a matter of sensibility, the flatpak wants to install something like \
> > 2 gigabytes of stuff. WTF?????
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I tried compiling 2.8.1 from source, but that throws hundreds of dependency errors. I have \
> > no idea what it is asking for.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Archive (missing: KF5Archive_DIR)
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Archive: found neither KF5ArchiveConfig.cmake nor \
> > kf5archive-config.cmake
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Completion (missing: KF5Completion_DIR)
>
> > -- Could NOT find KF5Completion: found neither KF5CompletionConfig.cmake nor \
> > kf5completion-config.cmake
>
> > I am open for suggestions.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thanks!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> >
>
> > Bill Gee
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
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<body><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><span \
style="font-size:0.92em;">Hi Alexander -</span></p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">I brought up a test machine \
under KVM to see if the flatpak would work. It sort of works, though as far as I can tell \
it will not save any file. It certainly does not save files to the directory I tell it \
to. I tried saving a project and printing a PDF with the target being \
/home/bgee/Documents ... but nothing ever appears there. Curiously, when I reprint \
to the same filename, it says that file already exists! Double curious - Exporting as a \
PNG does put the file where I expect it.</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">There is something weird \
going on. Are the files being saved inside a virtual environment? If so, how do I \
get to them from outside the virtual environment?</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Flatpaks, snaps and \
containers all strike me as a very neat solution for which no problem exists. It took \
about 1 gigabyte of downloads to support a program that is less than 20 megabytes in \
size. It won't save files where I tell it to. The filename dialog boxes always pop \
up behind all other windows when they should be at the top of the Z-order. If I change \
themes, colors, icons, pointers, the changes are not used by the flatpak application.</p> <br \
/><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">So what is the \
advantage?</p> <p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">-- </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Bill Gee</p> <br /><br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><br />On Monday, January 4, \
2021 2:51:45 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Bill, would flatpack be \
an option for you?</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.kde.labplot2</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Gesendet: Montag, 04. \
Januar 2021 um 21:30 Uhr</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Von: "Bill \
Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> An: kde-edu@kde.org, \
"Alexander Semke" <alexander.semke@web.de></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Cc: \
kde-edu@mail.kde.org</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Betreff: Re: Aw: \
LabPlot - Cannot print or export</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Hi Alexander -</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Who'd a thunk it? Your \
suggestion of skipping the workbook and going straight to a spreadsheet works! I can print and \
export plots, and the saved project will reload with all my plots present. When the plots are \
inside a workbook, the print and export options do nothing.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Yeah, it would be nice \
to have the current version, but I don't see an easy way to do it until some Fedora maintainer \
gets around to building a new package.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Many thanks for your \
help.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> --</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Bill Gee</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> On Monday, January \
4, 2021 2:14:12 PM CST Alexander Semke wrote:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Hi Bill,</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > we had a problem \
with restoring the connections to columns in spreadsheets that are part of a workbook. This bug \
is already fixed but I think it's still present in the version you're using. To workaround this \
problem now without upgrading to the most recent version (should be the preferred way, though) \
is to create a "stand-alone" spreadsheet. So, just create a new spreadsheet without \
the workbook and import your data.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > As to the export, \
this should work actually. If you select the plot and click on the export button in the \
toolbar, are you able to export to PDF and PNG or JPEG?</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Regards,</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Alexander</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Gesendet: Montag, \
04. Januar 2021 um 20:42 Uhr</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Von: "Bill \
Gee" <bgee@campercaver.net></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > An: \
kde-edu@mail.kde.org</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Betreff: LabPlot - \
Cannot print or export</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Fedora 33, \
KDE/Plasma desktop, LabPlot version 2.7.0 from the Fedora repository</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I touch LabPlot \
once a year for a special need, so much of my knowledge evaporates over the year. It is time \
for me to get back to it.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I have a project \
with a workbook that links to a CSV file of values. I figured out how to create a basic plot. \
Now I have two problems:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > 1) When I save the \
project, the plots are NOT saved. Every time I open the project, I have to create the plots \
again. Who can I save plots?</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > 2) Once the plots \
are created, I want to print them to PDF and export them to JPG. File-Print and File-Export do \
nothing. It is like clicking on /dev/null. There is no error, no windows pop up, nothing is \
printed ... How can I get these features to work? It is almost like LabPlot thinks there is \
nothing to print.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > If I select the \
worksheet, then File-Export does work. Of course, that's not what I want to export! When i \
select a plot, I get nothing.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Snaps are not an \
option. The version of LabPlot in the snap library is 2.6.0 which does not have some of the \
features I need. Flatpaks are not an option because the flatpak package requires Wayland, and \
I cannot run that. The nVidia display driver does not work with Wayland. And as a matter of \
sensibility, the flatpak wants to install something like 2 gigabytes of stuff. WTF?????</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I tried compiling \
2.8.1 from source, but that throws hundreds of dependency errors. I have no idea what it is \
asking for.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- Could NOT \
find KF5Archive (missing: KF5Archive_DIR)</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- Could NOT find \
KF5Archive: found neither KF5ArchiveConfig.cmake nor kf5archive-config.cmake </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- Could NOT find \
KF5Completion (missing: KF5Completion_DIR)</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > -- Could NOT find \
KF5Completion: found neither KF5CompletionConfig.cmake nor kf5completion-config.cmake</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I am open for \
suggestions.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Thanks!</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > --</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Bill Gee</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ></p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
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