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Subject: Re: Proposal discussion for Cantor: Python 3 as the only backend officially supported
From: Filipe Saraiva <filipe () kde ! org>
Date: 2018-01-09 13:25:30
Message-ID: b9fa43aa-0cc8-40c9-9404-48095815dfdc () kde ! org
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Hello Alex;
Em 08-01-2018 19:25, Alexander Semke escreveu:
>> My proposal is officially maintain only Python 3 backend, move the other
>> backends to a community/third-party repository and, if someone cares
>> about them, release some of them as extensions in KDE Store.
> Nobody, well, except of you, cares about them at the moment. Why should
> this change if you move this code to KDE store?
>
The bug reports show there are some people using some of them. In order
to not remove completely these features, they can be released in KDE Store.
But I will not put these extensions there. Just in case someone cares
about them, this person will be accountable for do it - not me.
>>
>> This way I can work better with Cantor.
>>
>> Just to say, I tried in past solve it inviting developers to be
>> co-maintainers of the backends, but it does not work as I expected.
> This is understandable. At least for big players like python and julia
> that have Jupyter, R that has R-Studio, Sage that has cocalc.com and
> Octave and scilab with their own frontends. Why should the developers
> from these communities care about Cantor?
>
> To attract more developers we need to improve Cantor greatly first and
> to provide some benefits and advantages compared to other solutions. I
> know, this is kind of a hen egg problem, but still..
>
In fact.
> Which backends are causing the most problems at the moment? Is it Sage?
> Maxima?
>
R was broken for several years, but there is a fix now (not released
yet). Sage breaks for each new release. Julia had some problems with
previous versions. Lua has bugs after a new release.
Scilab was unstable for some previous releases but now it is working.
Octave and KAlgebra/Analitza are working fine, but the first one
sometimes had small bugs to be fixed. Python 2 and 3 are ok.
I don't know about the status of Maxima and Qalculate.
Cheers;
--
Filipe Saraiva
http://filipesaraiva.info/
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